Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

[Reindl Harald]

Am 02.01.2015 um 21:05 schrieb Miloslav Trmač:
> Here, GUIs _as a category_ (not necessarily the GUIs we are currently providing) should always be better than CLIs _as a category_ simply because the GUI can in the worst case just copy the CLI layout and behavior so it will not be worse than a CLI; and then there are all the graphics and mouse interactions and shadows and animation that a GUI can do but a CLI can’t.

no it can't

a gui for "grep file | grep -v x | grep -y | sort | uniq | awk... > 
newfile" is impossible because you *never* can build a GUI that is the 
same way flexiable and still useable

> And there is a major difficulty: doing 2) before 1) is done can be counter-productive, counter-productivity or in the worst case just dishonest; but doing 1) without 2) is likely impossible if the CLI capabilities keep expanding faster than we can add GUI interfaces to the same capabilities.  So I can see a case for being vocal about “nobody should need to use a terminal” even now; but that case critically depends on the ability of the community to actually write the better non-terminal interfaces.

but you can't and won't use the GUI the same way on remote machines over 
slow lines as you can use a CLI and hence smart, short and repeatable 
tasks are done in shell-scripts because a "ssh user at host 
/usr/local/bin/task.sh" is done before you remote GUI even starts

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