Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments
Hedayat Vatankhah
hedayat.fwd at gmail.com
Mon Jan 5 03:26:20 UTC 2015
/*Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com>*/ wrote on Sun, 4 Jan 2015
02:55:17 -0500 (EST):
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hedayat Vatankhah" <hedayat.fwd at gmail.com>
>> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel at lists.fedoraproject.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 11:15:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments
>>
>> <...>
>>
>> GNOME Software is not that useful for a developer. As Rechard himself said,
>> he'll need a package manager anyway. So, If Workstation product really
>> targets developers, specially the ones who don't want to use terminal, it
>> MUST include a graphical package manager.
>>
>> There are developers unaware of the concept of package manager which does not
>> help. Gnome Software is actually useful once the add-ons functionality is
>> fully expanded on applications. Works need to be done allowing a seamless
>> integration.
>> Add-ons cannot cover development libraries, unless every library is an add-on
>> for all IDEs!
> It can be done dynamic aka install devel packages on request by IDEs - see https://rgrunber.fedorapeople.org/eclipse_packagekit_1.ogv
It's great, but it is not address my concerns, because:
1) If its going to be the only method for installing -devel packages, it
should always work: it should be able to install a missing library or
header file (consider a makefile only project). Also, not everybody uses
correct package name in their configure script, some people use
corresponding Debian package name (with a lib prefix and even sometimes
full debian package name: libfoo-dev); so partial/non-exact matching
should be also implemented.
2) More importantly, it doesn't address my main concern at all: what if
I want to create a new project, and I'm looking for a good XML library,
or would like to see what Fedora has to offer in this area? Even if I've
found a great library in Internet, I should create a test in my
configure/cmake checks for that library and see if PK will find it. It
doesn't look like a user friendly way to search for a development
library! It's a workaround around a missing UI.
Looking for development libraries, see their ranking and even reading
user's reviews is all completely useful for a developer, which aligns
perfectly with what Software offers for applications.
Regards,
Hedayat
>
>
> Alexander Kurtakov
> Red Hat Eclipse team
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