A little problem with dnf

[Radek Holy]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adrian Soliard" <asoliard at fedoraproject.org>
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 1:09:43 PM
> Subject: Re: A little problem with dnf
> 
> 2015-01-13 6:33 GMT-03:00 Radek Holy <rholy at redhat.com>:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jan Zelený" <jzeleny at redhat.com>
> >> To: devel at lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 8:33:21 AM
> >> Subject: Re: A little problem with dnf
> >>
> >> On 12. 1. 2015 at 07:55:26, Adrian Soliard wrote:
> >> > 2015-01-12 5:35 GMT-03:00 Igor Gnatenko <i.gnatenko.brain at gmail.com>:
> >> > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Jan Zelený <jzeleny at redhat.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> On 11. 1. 2015 at 20:40:56, Adrian Soliard wrote:
> >> > >>> Hi everyone!
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>    I'm struggling a bit with dnf. It may have advantages, but as an
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> end-user, I'm fighting with the list of packages when I press TAB.
> >> > >>> It's complicated, if I forget to install a specific package, dnf
> >> > >>> wouldn't show it to me, yum do it [1].
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I know that dnf is newer, and surely will improve, I'm just writing
> >> > >>> to
> >> > >>> let seated such problem.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> [1] http://asoliard.fedorapeople.org/dnf.png
> >> > >>
> >> > >> What happens when you press "y"? Does it show you the completions
> >> > >> then?
> >> > >> I
> >> > >> have just tried it and the list seems to be correct to me - it's just
> >> > >> quite long because there are many packages starting with "eclipse"
> >> >
> >> > If I press "y" it show me a list of coincidence, but It don't matter
> >> > if is installed or not.
> >> >
> >> > >> In any case if you think there is something wrong with dnf, we
> >> > >> encourage
> >> > >> you to file a bug but this doesn't seem to be the case.
> >> >
> >> > I know, that's not a problem, I'm not going to open a bug for this.;
> >> > But I think is good to know, as I said before, dnf is newer than yum,
> >> > it will improve
> >> >
> >> > > This will happens, because installed packages is available packages I
> >> > > think and we relying completion on available packages.
> >> >
> >> > Try it: Install a package (a simple package, like "homebank"), and
> >> > then write "dnf install homeba" and TAB.
> >> > dnf will autocomplete "homebank", and you already has installed it.
> >>
> >> Ah I didn't get what the problem was. Now I can see the problem and
> >> reproduce
> >> it. Not a big deal but should be fixed somewhere down the road. I would
> >> still
> >> like to ask you to file a bug so this doesn't get lost in the swamp of
> >> other
> >> bugs and enhancements we work on.
> >
> 
> Ok, I will consider sending a bug, as you say, It's not a big deal,
> but, in this case, I'm looking for different packages with yum, dnf
> returns a long list of eclipse* packages, even if installed.
> 
> > BTW, in case of YUM, it would make sense to suggest even installed packages
> > because "yum install homebank" means "install the latest homebank or
> > upgrade to the latest version of homebank".
> 
> The problem is that when you press TAB to autocomplete, dnf returns a
> list with all packages, and yum exclude the installed ones.

I understand your problem. My point was that people who are used type "yum install pkg" instead of "yum upgrade pkg" (even when they want to upgrade an already installed package) wouldn't consider it a bug.
-- 
Radek Holý
Associate Software Engineer
Software Management Team
Red Hat Czech