Meeting minutes for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2015-01-14)

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 01/16/2015 05:08 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
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> On 16 January 2015 at 01:31, Bohuslav Kabrda <bkabrda at redhat.com
> <mailto:bkabrda at redhat.com>> wrote:
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>     ----- Original Message -----
>     > Honza Horak wrote:
>     > > * Fedora Rings  (hhorak, 12:03:21)
>     > [snip]
>     > >    * IDEA: definition of ring 1 is a minimal set of packages that give
>     > >      you a functional system, with some sort of approval  (hhorak,
>     > >      13:31:21)
>     > >    * IDEA: ring 1 should be self-hosted -- because you want to build very
>     > >      solid important packages using very solid important packages
>     > >      (hhorak, 13:31:21)
>     >
>     > In other words, Fedora Core all over again? Been there, done that…
>     >
>     >         Kevin Kofler
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>     Not all of us were there. So what's the problem with that?
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> Fedora Core was seen by many developers as "You either work in the small
> team of Red Hatters and get stuff done" or "You are a volunteer or
> someone at Red Hat who isn't part of the cool group and don't get stuff
> done."
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> If you were an "Outsider" and worked on a package that all of a sudden
> was "core" you found your version no longer was the one being worked on.

That's a very polite description of the situation, then.

In fact, it was a 2-class hierarchical society with 2 classes of humans. 
I do not want to see this dark age of fedora's history repeat.

Ralf