DNF replacing yum: fedup?

[Jaroslav Reznik]

----- Original Message -----
> On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 14:37 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Chris Murphy <
> > lists at colorremedies.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Adam Williamson <
> > > adamwill at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > > > I note the ReplaceYumWithDnf Change page:
> > > > 
> > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF
> > > > 
> > > > says nothing about fedup. However, fedup uses yum:
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Seems like fedup is only used on Fedora 21 and older to upgrade to
> > > Fedora 22. So dnf support would be needed to get Fedora 22 to
> > > fedup to Fedora 23. No?
> > 
> > I guess right after Fedora 22 branch, it would break the ability to
> > use fedup to upgrade from Fedora 22 to Rawhide...
> > 
> 
> There is in fact no strict *technical* requirement for anything to
> move from yum to dnf in F22. yum will remain in the F22 package set,
> it is not being removed.
> 
> However, the Change seems to me to have been written with the basic
> idea that yum shouldn't be installed by default any more and nothing
> that's a core part of Fedora should use it any more - for e.g., the
> Change incorporates moving anaconda to dnf, even though technically
> speaking there's no *need* for this, we could if we wanted to ship F22
> with anaconda using yum but the installed system using dnf.

This has implications on another Change - moving to Python 3. See 
Scope section - http://fedoraproject.org//wiki/Changes/Python_3_as_Default

Yum means moving both DNF and Python 3 to Fedora 23.

Jaroslav

> So given that, I wanted to clarify the status of fedup.
> 
> If F22's fedup depends on yum, then people with 'clean' dnf-only
> systems are going to get yum installed when they want to upgrade to
> F23. Of course, we could ship F22 on release day with a yum-based
> fedup then provide a dnf-based one as an update, but that seems a bit
> messy.
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