Hosting End-Of-Life Fedora Base images?

Petr Spacek pspacek at redhat.com
Tue Jul 21 18:41:08 UTC 2015


On 21.7.2015 19:47, Corey Sheldon wrote:
> +1 for not  allowing EOL
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> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Daniel P. Berrange <berrange at redhat.com>
> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:05:19AM -0500, Adam Miller wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Chris Murphy <lists at colorremedies.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Isn't it true the install media ISOs are available indefinitely? And
>>>> if so the security cat is already out of the bag, so that's not a very
>>>> good argument. I'd say if we wanted to do something better it would be
>>>> an image that's usable for both VM and containers, and would be the
>>>> state of that version at the time it went EOL, i.e. it has all
>>>> available updates baked into it. And then de-emphasize the original
>>>> ISO as the way to run older versions of Fedora.
>>>
>>> It is true that install media ISOs are available forever, but we don't
>>> go backwards in time and create vagrant boxes or IaaS cloud qcow
>>> images of old EOL'd Fedora releases that went EOL before those
>>> technologies existed and/or became popular. I don't see why we would
>>> start doing so now for docker images.
>>
>> The security downsides of officially distributed docker images for EOL
>> versions are already mentioned, and i think that alone should be enough
>> to kill the idea. Beyond that though, making these EOL images available
>> is going to consume a non-zero amount of maintainer time for at least
>> one person, thus inevitably diverting resources away from making current
>> non-EOL Fedora better.
>>
>> Avoiding maintainer time being sucked up on old releases is why we EOL
>> them in the first place, and the rationale for existence of long term
>> support alternatives like RHEL & CentOS. So I don't think we should
>> consider cloud images any differently in that respect. Fedora is about
>> being at the cutting edge and that's where we should focus our limited
>> resources, even for cloud images.
>>
>> If people want cloud images with older software versions than are in the
>> current supported Fedora, they should be looking for cloud images from
>> CentOS/RHEL instead.

All EOL software should die by a violent death.

We have enough nightmares caused by buggy software which is not-yet EOL,
please do not add another pile of ...

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Petr Spacek  @  Red Hat


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