Hosting End-Of-Life Fedora Base images?

Adam Miller maxamillion at
Tue Jul 21 20:37:18 UTC 2015

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones at> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:05:19AM -0500, Adam Miller wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Chris Murphy <lists at> wrote:
>> > Isn't it true the install media ISOs are available indefinitely? And
>> > if so the security cat is already out of the bag, so that's not a very
>> > good argument. I'd say if we wanted to do something better it would be
>> > an image that's usable for both VM and containers, and would be the
>> > state of that version at the time it went EOL, i.e. it has all
>> > available updates baked into it. And then de-emphasize the original
>> > ISO as the way to run older versions of Fedora.
>> It is true that install media ISOs are available forever, but we don't
>> go backwards in time and create vagrant boxes or IaaS cloud qcow
>> images of old EOL'd Fedora releases that went EOL before those
>> technologies existed and/or became popular.
> I am actually, for virt-builder.  There's a bunch of reasons to do
> this.  Whether they are good or not, you can decide, but here they
> are:
>  - Test images for detection of old versions of Fedora/RHEL/etc
>    (for virt-inspector and other monitoring tools).
>  - Test images for virt-v2v.
>  - Environments for reproducing old bugs (however I would generally
>    reject a bug report if it referred to some ancient / EOL'd Fedora).

Which is totally fine.

I'm not saying that nobody should do it, I'm saying that Fedora
Release Engineering does not currently, nor have they ever, do this in
an official context as an official deliverable from the Fedora

My question to the group is, "should we be doing this as an official
deliverable of the Fedora Project?" and not, "should anyone ever do

All the bits are available and people can do with them what they
please (within Trademark Guidelines of course), but I'm just trying to
get a feel for if people want to see this done in an official


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