[HEADS UP] rpm-4.12.90 in rawhide
Vít Ondruch
vondruch at redhat.com
Tue Jul 28 12:49:05 UTC 2015
Dne 28.7.2015 v 13:37 Neal Gompa napsal(a):
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:37 AM, Florian Festi <ffesti at redhat.com
> <mailto:ffesti at redhat.com>>wrote:
>
> On 07/28/2015 09:43 AM, Lubos Kardos wrote:
> > Support in rpm is not enough but libsolv supports rich deps
> since the version
> > 0.6.9 too thus rich deps work also in hawkey and dnf if the
> version 0.6.9 or
> > a newer version of libsolv is installed.
>
$ rpm -q libsolv
libsolv-0.6.11-1.fc22.x86_64
Sounds great ...
>
> Right now only AND and OR is supported by libsolv. Implementation
> of IF
> ELSE is still pending.
>
> Also we still need to settle to a final syntax for the operators [1].
> Unfortunately there is no consensus among the other packaging formats
> what to use. Right now rpm accepts 3 different styles:
> * AND OR IF ELSE
> * & | ? :
> * && || ? :
> But the final release will only support on of them. As soon as the
> alpha
> stops eating babies that's a discussion we need to have.
>
> So for now they are more a tech preview in Fedora but we want to get
> them operational til the release.
>
Never thought about anything else than Rawhide ...
> This still means that they are not
> supposed to be used in F23 as they may only completely work very late.
> Also there is still a lot of paper work to do for the packaging
> policy.
>
> I expect that both Boolean Deps and File Triggers won't be
> introduced in
> one go but there will be multiple Fedora Features introducing them one
> use case at a time. E.g. one feature per file trigger replacing
> one kind
> of scriptlets. Boolean dependencies being used for language packs
> being
> one Feature/Package Policy section and other use cases being others.
>
Just out of curiosity, do you have already any candidates for File
Triggers? I suppose "/sbin/ldconfig" is one of them. Do you plan to have
some F24 feature to get rid of these?
>
> This may start in the F24 time frame - especially for some urgent
> corner
> cases - but my guess is that this will rather take multiple releases.
>
> Florian
>
> [1] http://rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/BooleanDependencies
>
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> Is there a reason why we can't maintain all three kinds? Also, why in
> the world are bitwise operation operators supported for logical
> operations? I'd be okay with maintaining options 1 and 3, to be honest.
1 and 3 looks good to me.
Vít
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