Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

Chris Murphy lists at colorremedies.com
Fri Jun 26 00:06:55 UTC 2015


On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Adam Williamson
<adamwill at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 14:49 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Chris Murphy <
>> lists at colorremedies.com> wrote:
>> > Yet this bug [1] is routinely voted
>>
>> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864198  Not that
>> anyone should go try to make sense out of a three year old bug with
>> over 100 comments... but the gist is "nah, we don't want to fix it
>> now, therefore the release criteria don't matter".
>
> That is not an accurate summary. For F20 it was rejected as a Beta
> blocker and accepted as a Final blocker. It was addressed by preventing
> the installer from allowing /boot to be on a btrfs subvolume.

Preventing the conditions that result in boot failure is not the same
thing as fixing the underlying problem with /boot on Btrfs being
unsupported by grubby.

Such a work around would never be considered acceptable for ext3, ext4
or XFS /boot volumes. We'd block on that. And since something like
Fedora 18/19 we supposedly agreed Btrfs should have parity with other
fs's with respect to release criteria, but plainly that's not the
case.

What really irritates me about this bug more than any in recent memory
is we had a contributor working to patch grubby to fix this problem.
The patches were tested by you and by me and they worked. Yet for f'n
9 months pjones didn't have the courtesy to bring his (eventual)
criticisms to gczarcinski. Not until at least half a dozen people had
to go through this goddamn bug, yet again, for Fedora 22 blocker
review, make it a blocker, do we get an offline relay from pjones that
the patches were deficient and he wanted to do it differently but with
no further elaboration on what that should look like in case someone
wants to do that work. And now gczarcinsk doesn't respond to any
emails to any of his email addresses: so he's either died in the long
interim it took to lead him on only to tell him to go pound salt
months later, or he's sufficiently pissed off with the Fedora process
that he's over it.

So you're right, the summary was not completely accurate.

-- 
Chris Murphy


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