FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

Stephen John Smoogen smooge at gmail.com
Mon Mar 9 18:48:36 UTC 2015

On 9 March 2015 at 10:40, Chris Murphy <lists at colorremedies.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> When someone says a compulsory password quality policy is actionable,
> >> they are telling me my judgement cannot be trusted for my own device,
> >> without respect to context. And yet I see other OS's, distros, mobile
> >> devices, none of which have such a requirement or are yet even more
> >> permissive, and that makes me distrust these proponents. A gap in
> >> trust has formed, and widens as proponents don't even acknowledge such
> >> concerns and push for the change violating myriad long standing
> >> expectations in the relationship between user, device and OS. But I
> >> must comply if I depend on the GUI installer, and this abrogation
> >> constitutes a misfeasance. That makes me mad because it's unfair.
> >>
> >> I challenge you to find a single flaw in that sequence.
> >>
> >
> > There are multiple ways. I could go to the extreme and say your first
> > questionable judgement was that you used a distribution and allowed
> others
> > to decide for you what packages were in the core, which versions, which
> > compiler options. Coming in at the end and saying 'woah this is takes
> away
> > my rights from my device.' is really closing the doors after the barn.
> > However that would just make take the argument to the next Godwin level
> and
> > waste a lot of electrons.
> Except, you just did. You didn't actually refrain.
You are correct. I was snide, over-the-top and rude. What I said was
inexcusable and wrong. I apologize and withdraw from this conversation.

Stephen J Smoogen.
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