F23 Self Contained Change: Netizen Spin

[Jan Kurik]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Miloslav Trmač" <mitr at redhat.com>
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 9:41:06 PM
> Subject: Re: F23 Self Contained Change: Netizen Spin
> 
> > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 09:50:44AM -0600, Pete Travis wrote:
> > > A spin is a big effort with many interoperating packages and coordination
> > > with other teams (primarily releng, but you should also seek guidance
> > > from
> > > QA).  It qualifies as a System Wide Change.
> > 
> > Especially if this particular spin is asking for significant deviation
> > from our standard config (something I'm unclear about -- see Spins list
> > discussion). In that case, this definitely should be considered as
> > system-wide.
> 
> On this particular procedural point, I think _all_ spins should be considered
> system-wide due to the required involvement of rel-eng, council and others;
> they are by no means “self-contained” in the sense that nobody else needs to
> help with getting them done.

The question whether Spins need to be System-wide or Self-contained Changes has been raised on the last FESCo meeting and the conclusion was to have Spins as Self-contained. However every request for a Spin goes to FESCo for a review. So, FESCo has the opportunity to turn a specific Spin requests to a System-wide change if they consider so.

Regards,
Jan

> And generally I agree with the concern raised on the spins list
> (https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/spins/2015-May/004222.html and
> following) that the spin description can, at least by a quick read without
> reading the actual kickstart, likely to be misunderstood to deliver more
> than it actually does. For example, just including a tor package by no means
> guarantees privacy (e.g. it does nothing about all the ways Fedora leaks
> information about being Fedora).
>     Mirek
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