fedup for F23 and beyond

[Reindl Harald]

Am 28.05.2015 um 22:12 schrieb Josh Boyer:
> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> when i hear "offline update" i have enough at all
>>
>> frankly what people really need is relieable and fast *online updates* and
>> not taking the esay road "well go offline" and that works pretty well over
>> many years now *with expierience* what services you need to restart and if
>> you should log off or just close specific applicatoons and start them again
>>
>> giving up and say "meh i am not able and so go offline" may work for some
>> part of the userbase, that maybe even fine *as long* efforts to continue
>> what we have now for many many years for advanced users won't die
>
> I understand the sentiment.  I don't like rebooting for updates
> either.  However, our "efforts" on live online updates to date have
> been "we'll let RPM update this and maybe throw some scripts at it to
> restart things and hope it works."  It does in a lot of cases and
> doesn't in others.  And our advanced users are distinguished by the
> fact that they can figure out when it doesn't work and then fix
> things.  That isn't really a _better_ experience than offline updates.
> It's just familiar to you

no, it is not just familiar to me

i came in 2006 from Windows because i had enough of this reboots all the 
time because of updates and software installations and hearing that 
nearly 10 years later linux distribution seriously consider to went back 
that road makes me puke

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