Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

[Tomas Mraz]

On 11.9.2015 16:17, Matěj Cepl wrote:
> On 2015-09-10, 19:10 GMT, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>>> The reason for this proposal is relatively simple: we know the
>>> advantages to unbundling, particularly with security and resource-
>>> usage. However, the world's developer community largely *does not
>>> care*. We fought the good fight, we tried to bring people around to
>>> seeing our reasoning and we failed.
>> I think we should really pause and think about what does the 'does not
>> care' mindset entail. It's not just the attitude towards bundling: it
>> extends to security problems, integration issues, and who knows what
>> other aspect of the product. I concede that it's, as you said, a list of
>> the same tired arguments---but  they do have a point!  I think it is a
>> mistake to declare defeat, even if it's nominally only on the specific
>> issue of bundling.
>
> I don’t know how to say it and looked proud or ignorant, but
> after spending many years almost exclusively inside of the free
> software movement, I have to admit that the Sturgeon’s Law[1]
> did not miss us at all, and ninety percent of all free software
> (mine included at the first place) is crap. Most development
> practices I can see on GitHub are just absolutely horrible.
>
> Everybody talks here about Freedom, Features, Friends, and
> First, but there used to be pride in the Fedora community (and
> despite my multiple suggestions it has never made it into The
> Big Four keywords; probably nobody found out the way how to make
> it into F* word) to Make Things Right. We used to be proud for
> the best engineering, and taking a lot of effort to make things
> in the proper way even when others (hey, Ubuntu!) just throw out
> sometimes horrible crap.
>
> For this I am -1 on this proposal. Yes, there is no way for us
> to win over the idiocy, and yes, we will probably have to make
> number of exceptions when necessary, but the fight against
> entropy should never stop and we should strife to make The Right
> Things™ against all odds.

And I am giving Matěj a big +1 for what he wrote here. I completely 
agree with that.

Regards,
Tomas Mraz