F22: Software for update

[Avery, David]

Mobile connections are not the only metered connections out there. There are plenty of ISPs that still have traffic limits and metered packages, maybe not where you live but elsewhere in the world

dave

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From: devel-bounces at lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:devel-bounces at lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Richard Hughes
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:33 AM
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
Subject: Re: F22: Software for update

On 29 September 2015 at 18:08, Eric Griffith <egriffith92 at gmail.com> wrote:
> That seems like a really bad idea..

The alternative is we have a "download" stage, which means we can't do the blue "restart and update" action as it would download for a few minutes, and then randomly reboot when you had just started doing something else while you were waiting. The depsolve step is also important; we only show updates that can actually be installed rather than dnf which will install a subset of the true update list if there are tree compose problems.

> There's also the fact that if
> the connection is metered then we just ripped through a chunk of their data.

We only do the auto-refresh on wired or wifi connections. If you chose to do the manual refresh button on mobile data that's up to the user.

> Play Store don't download as part of a check, Windows Update doesn't, 
> OS X Software Update doesn't, System Update for iOS and Android don't.

Right, and that's a valid point; but until we have some kind of platform / application split like atomic/xdg-app it's just not achievable to download and install the applications at runtime. I'm trying to do the best with the bits we have at the moment, and when we've got a better platform story we can do something better.

Richard.
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