First complaint

Marina Zhurakhinskaya marinaz at redhat.com
Thu Jul 2 15:45:30 UTC 2015


I would underscore that this is a position on the Fedora Council, which is part of Fedora community governance.

Reliance on volunteering or unpaid work is one of the reasons there are fewer people from minority backgrounds, who have less leisure time, in open source, so I wouldn't offer the value of volunteering as an explanation in this context.

Thanks,
Marina

----- Original Message -----
From: "Máirín Duffy" <duffy at redhat.com>
To: diversity at lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 11:32:25 AM
Subject: Re: First complaint



On 07/02/2015 11:18 AM, Spencer Hunley wrote:
> I agree with Maria and Matthew - it's with Fedora, and Fedora itself has
> no budget since it's a community-based distribution, similar to the
> budget for Debian. She seems to be confusing Red Hat with Fedora here,
> probably because the position was posted by employees of Red Hat - but
> looking at the tweet it clearly states "The @fedora community is looking
> for a Diversity & Inclusion Advisor", so I'm not sure where the
> confusion sits.

I think the confusion comes from it looking like a real paid job 
description - I don't think we've ever actual done that before for an 
unpaid Fedora position.

Reading the tweet 
https://twitter.com/FeyNudibranch/status/616283167700332545

She's rehashing a well-worn activist trope about volunteerism with full 
disregard for the fact that this is an *open source* project and the 
very nature of open source is the underpinning of a large base of 
volunteers. If anything, actually outlining a position and granting 
authority to a non-technical volunteer is a lot more than 99.999% FLOSS 
volunteers get to work with when starting out...

So I'd respond with something to point out that it's an open source 
project and the very nature of such projects, eg

"This is not a generic tech job. This is an advisory role for an open 
source community, communities whose underpinnings rely on volunteerism 
(see 
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=volunteer+%22open+source%22&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C22&as_sdtp=)"


~m
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