Self-Introduction: Timothy Murphy

Miles Brennan miles at
Fri Dec 21 23:46:34 UTC 2007

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Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 15:37 -0800, Karsten Wade wrote: 
>> On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 16:46 +0300, John Babich wrote:
>>> In my opinion, two big blocking issues are
>>> 1. complications due to licensing
>> Cannot be helped.  The OPL is the only good license for Fedora content.
>> If the situation changes or a sufficient license arrives, we can use it.
>> The complications of copyright law, US law, and other intellectual
>> property laws are not the fault of this project.  We do with what we
>> can. :)
> Timothy mentioned that Miles was in favor of him bringing this document
> to us.  That means if Miles dual-licenses the document, with the new
> license being the OPL with no restrictions, Timothy could bring it here
> and work on it.  Timothy, if you want to bring that question to Miles,
> and he simply plops a bit of text into the document at his site stating
> that, that's probably sufficient.


I attempted to bring the HOWTO into the FDP in Jun/Jul 2006.

Tim was willing then to bring the document to FDP and work on it.

At the time I was happy to change the licensing to meet the objective.
However I did find there seemed to be more emphasis on the format, style
and inclusion into the wiki, than the content of the HOWTO.

Although the document was written to suit Fedora Core, I tried to
maintain generic configuration and commands where possible so other
distros could also benefit from it. Also stayed away from the GUIs.

Converting the plain HTML version of the document to wiki format was
much more painful than first anticipated. I wanted to keep the feel of
the original HOWTO styled document, as I believe they are much easier to
read and follow than the current wiki construct. However the wiki code
does not easily support the formatting of tables, cells, preformatted
text and other basis formatting. Working in RAW wiki code was very time

Here is the draft of the HOWTO I worked on:

I installed moinmoin on my own server to work on the formatting issues a
little easier and found I needed to make some significant changes to the
CSS for the document to look and feel the way I wanted it to. It was
also mentioned at the time that FDP would be moving to a Plone and Zope
based system, making these type of migrations easier. Although I had no
experience with these two applications, I was happy to try something
new. I eventually gave up on transferring the documentation because the
new system has not been implemented and I found the wiki frustrating.

If FDP is still willing to accept the documentation, I am happy to
change the licensing and Tim is prepared to start some work on it.
Perhaps we start a new thread on updating the HOWTO and moving it into
the FDP.

Open to suggestions.

Miles Brennan
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