RFC: Wiki Gardening... it's time to pull up the weeds

[Eric H. Christensen]

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On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:30:11AM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
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> > From: "Christopher Antila" <crantila at fedoraproject.org>
> > To: docs at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:25:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: RFC: Wiki Gardening... it's time to pull up the weeds
> > 
> > On Fri, 2014-06-20 at 11:12 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:33:36AM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote:
> > > > 1. Immediately move the oldest 2460 pages to Archive: and remove their
> > > > categories.
> > > 
> > > This makes me a little bit worried. What if there is valuable but basically
> > > unchanged information there?
> > > 
> > > I agree that cleanup is necessary, but this seems dangerous.
> > 
> > That's a good point. Can we find out how often wiki pages are viewed?
> > That might be more useful.
> > 
> > Perhaps we could use a "staging" area (like an {{oldest}} category) for
> > the oldest 2460 pages too.
> > 
> > While I'm always hesitant to ask people for more effort (especially
> > myself...), I wonder if we could do this in steps of, say, 500 pages at
> > a time.
> > 
> > The first 500 pages could be moved into the {{oldest}} category and kept
> > there for a week. Interested contributors can review the pages if they
> > wish, and remove them from the archival queue as relevant. Remaining
> > pages can be archived after a week when another 500 old pages can be
> > moved into the staging area.
> 
> Perhaps a Doc FAD/Hackfest to cull through these? If there's a way to divvy up pages amongst volunteers and all that's needed is a "yes, archive" / "no, still relevant" / "relevant, needs updating" decision, that'd be better than archiving the lot. (Might also be a good way to hook people into docs work - it'd certainly be an easy task for first timers...)

I'm not sure going through 10,000 wiki pages is an easy task.  If it were we would have been doing it all along and we wouldn't have ended up with so much cruft.

It's probably good to explain to the non-Docs folks all the disruption moving these pages to Archive: will cause.

1) Moving these pages to Archive: will leave a redirect in Main: so if anyone goes to the old path they will be automatically redirected to the new path.
2) Because these pages aren't being deleted the content will still be available to users.
3) Because these pages are just being moved to Archive: if anything needs to be moved back to Main: it's a fast and trivial process.
4) The only thing moving these files to Archive: does is removes them from the Main: space to help clean up that space and make search more productive.

Hope this helps explain the RFC better.

- -- Eric

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Eric "Sparks" Christensen
Fedora Project

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