[FAmSCo] Flock updates: Website, Preregistration, Call for talks, and MORE!

[Truong Anh. Tuan]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christoph Wickert" <christoph.wickert at gmail.com>
> To: "Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee" <famsco at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 12:56:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [FAmSCo] Flock updates: Website, Preregistration, Call for talks, and MORE!
> 
> Moving this over to FAmSCo list...
> 
> Am Montag, den 06.05.2013, 12:07 -0700 schrieb Robyn Bergeron:
> 
> > You may submit as many topics as you feel qualified to deliver.
> > Suggested topics include but are in no way limited to:
> > * ARM
> > * Cloud
> > * Community
> > * Design
> > * Desktop
> > * Fedora Ambassadors
> 
> ^^^
> 
> I think the ambassadors are an excellent example of a group that does
> not benefit from Flock. Please allow me to explain:
> 
> Most of our teams are global. If you are for example into packaging, it
> doesn't matter where you live. Kevin and I work on Xfce; he lives in the
> US, I in Germany. Sure we would love to discuss things face to face and
> a global conference like Flock that brings many people together is a big
> step forward.
> 
> On the other hand we have the ambassadors. They are regional teams to
> represent Fedora in their local and regional community. The whole setup
> is defines by regions. Each region their own meetings, mailing lists,
> track instance(s), mentors and leaders. Global coordination is done by
> FAmSCo and on the ambassadors mailing list. AFAICS there is no need for
> further meetings etc.
> 
> When it comes to select the Flock attendees the question we have to ask
> ourselves is: "What does this person bring to the table to make Fedora
> 20 more awesome?". With this question in mind we will probably not
> approve a lot of sponsorship requests for ambassadors. They have no
> directly impact on Fedora 20, their real work starts after the release.
> 
> Robyn, please bear with me if I complain about how Flock is being
> organized. But I'm afraid I'll have to keep on complaining. As a FAmSCo
> member, I have to represent the ambassadors and FWIW, they have mixed
> feelings about Flock. When I complained on flock-planning last week, I
> didn't get any feedback from you or Spot, but 3 EMEA ambassadors
> privately told me they appreciate my criticism as they are afraid they
> will not make it to Flock.
> 
> I think the ambassadors are better off with FUDCons in their region.
> Replacing regional FUDCons with a global Flock is a bad move for them
> and that decision should not have been made without talking to FAmSCo.

Firstly, I am so appreciated in your efforts to organize Flock, esp. in
case of not having FUDCon in APAC. I know organizing such a bug event
like FUDCon and now Flock is a complicated work.

However, as a long time ambassador and a FAmSCo member, I share these
concerns with Christoph. I also wonder what ambassadors should do in a
FUDCon/Flock since almost our work is after releases (F20 in this case).

I myself submitted a presentation to discuss about How to plan for
annual ambassadors work in each region, in which I hope we can share and
learn to/from others ambassadors/mentors/regional-leaders a lot to make
our next activities planned better and better. However, I don't know if
we can join, at least, a few active ambassadors/mentors/leaders from
each region. If not (it seems to be), it is not effective to make that
face-to-face session.

Looking forward to hearing more comments and ideas to get this clearer.

Kind regards,
Tuan