Has anyone else noticed logging on to KDE under F-12 to be slower than on F-10/11? Are there any tools out there to record timings of the login process to see what might be taking longer? -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA/CoRA Division FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane orion at cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com