When is Konqueror going to become a real browser ? Why hasn't it matured ?

[Linuxguy123]

On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 18:55 -0500, Allen Winter wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 January 2009 2:47:35 pm Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 19:33 +0100, Lukáš Tinkl wrote:
> > > Dne Tuesday 27. of January 2009 19:26:13 Linuxguy123 napsal(a):
> > > > On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 17:06 +0000, José Matos wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 27 January 2009 16:52:28 Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > > > > > I knew that... I was hoping someone had an inside scoop or reason why
> > > > > > its the way it is.
> > > > >
> > > > > Several of us have (probably) some ideas why that has happened, on the
> > > > > other hand your preamble will turn us way from giving any kind of answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example what do you understand as a real browser? Do (e)links, lynx
> > > > > or dillo (among others) qualify? If the they don't qualify why are there
> > > > > users using them to browse the net?
> > > > >
> > > > > If you define a real browser as browser that deals with all the pages,
> > > > > then I am sorry but there aren't any. No single browser deals with all
> > > > > pages (imagine those IE-only pages, as an example) so there are no real
> > > > > browsers. QED.
> > > >
> > > > When will Konqueror work as well as Firefox does as far as handling
> > > > webpages without errors ?
> > > 
> > > I think José explained quite well your twisted perception of how the "real" 
> > > browser should look like. I for one know of many webpages that work correctly 
> > > in Konqueror but fail miserably in Firefox; guess why? Because these pages 
> > > were designed for IE only
> > 
> > OK, well here is an example page that Konqueror does not handle
> > properly:
> > 
> > http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-01-27-015-35-IN-KE
> > 
> > I assume that Linux Today wouldn't write web pages that are "IE only".  
> > 
> > The problem my konqueror has with this page is that it displays what
> > looks like a title bar incorrectly in the middle of the page. "Events
> > Blogs, Jobs, Partners...Search"
> > 
> > And the "Complete Story" link doesn't work.
> > 
> > So... I right click-> Open As... open it in Firefox and read the
> > story.  
> > 
> > If you don't believe me, I'd be happy to send a screen shot.
> > 
> I have been working with a khtml developer the past hour or so on this one.
> 
> Turns out there is one extra "</li>" in the html on that page where there shouldn't be.
> So the html is a bit messy.  However, the developer says he can fix khtml
> to be smarter about this.
> 
> In summary, we have a good chance for this bug to be fixed in 4.2.1

Excellent.  Great work.  Maybe you could share the email of the khtml
guy and we could tackle a few of these as a team ?

I'd love to see Konqueror work as well as Firefox or Opera.  Its my
favorite browser.

I bet it wouldn't take long to track down about a dozen of the worst
issues and I bet that would handle 80% of the pages it doesn't display
properly.