Raising the bar

Jud Craft craftjml at gmail.com
Tue Jun 30 18:50:59 UTC 2009


My mistake, pardon me.

I did not say it was easy "to make a VM image".  I have no idea.
However, I do think it is easy "to distribute a VM image".  It's just
a big file, like any other big file, right?

The current workflow -- for most power users -- involves distributing
live images, downloading them, creating new virtual machines, and then
running straight from the VM-Live image, or installing the live image
to the VM and using that.

My proposed workflow -- for most power users -- would then involve
distributing a VM image, downloading it, and opening it.  Voila.

None of that "create VM" or "install live image" stuff.  It is true
that these steps would be for power users, each time -- but in my
case, I think it at least reduces a bit of the work, since the
inevitable "make a VM step" is already done.

I think I am not deluded in that distributing a big VM file is just as
easy as distributing a big ISO file.  But, I am not infallible.  It
was just a suggestion, I figured the novelty would be obvious.  If
indeed it is more onerous, then I apologize for derailing the
discussion.

It might be more work up front for the Test Leader, since he'd have to
make a VM, but somehow I figured that making a custom LiveCD spin was
just as involved.  (The abstract idea involved -- make a
self-contained bootable linux-filesystem -- is the same in each case).


On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Rex Dieter<rdieter at math.unl.edu> wrote:
> On 06/30/2009 01:07 PM, Jud Craft wrote:
>> Right, you can use Live images in a VM.  But it would simplify the
>> barrier to entry if the image was pre-made, and I can't see how the
>> space requirement for downloading VM image would be much larger than a
>> live image (even if it would grow once activated).
>
> OK, enlighten me... to me live images are pretty easy already.
>
> How easy is it to make a distributable VM?
> And then, how to give that to others, to also use easily?
> I assume you're taking kvm here?
>
> Compare and contrast that workflow to the status quo.
>
> -- Rex
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