Has Anybody Seen Bug Fixes for Anything?

Anne Wilson cannewilson at googlemail.com
Sun May 31 09:45:35 UTC 2009

On Sunday 31 May 2009 06:48:20 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> On Saturday 30 May 2009 23:21:36 Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Saturday 30 May 2009 18:03:19 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > Just installed the Beta from unstable. Seriously... has anybody
> > > actually seen bug fixes? Or are the KDE developers simply adding
> > > features that add more bugs?
> >
> > Dozens of them.  Anything particular in mind?
> Here:
> These are the ones I've checked at first glance. Almost all of them
> Konqueror related, And none of the Konqueror bugs have been addressed.
> Leave a this for starters.
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157454

Not here - it's not the fastest site, but not slow enough to be a problem.

> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172534

This is a wish, not a bug.

> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106367

This refers to the same site as the first bug you mention.  I see no problem 
here.  It loads quickly enough, and moving to a sub-page was almost 

> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157481

I don't use x86_64 so I can't comment, except to say that on my 686 everything 
works as expected.

> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157483

The first of the two panels you mention is currently reporting a problem, but 
the second panel is scrolling in a space approximately equal to the "Special 
Offer" panel.  No problem here.

> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167825

Comment 10 states that KDE4 works differently and suggests a solution for you.
> The last on complains about the lack of capability to stretch panels across
> 2 monitors. And this lack, in my desktop environment, represents a real
> useabiltiy bug. Serious enough for me to move to xfce which does this
> flawlessly.
So did you every try the solution suggested?  If so, why was it not suitable?  
You did not file any report to that effect.

> As for konqueror vs firefox. Look firefox is not a kde app. Its mime types
> automatically link to gtk apps. Currently and more and more tentatively I
> use kde. I do not want to use gtk apps to read pdf or view multimedia or
> evolution and I do not want to have to manually reconfigure the gazillion
> or so mime types to open kde apps. If I want to use gtk apps I would use a
> gtk based windows manager. I use kde and a core application is very badly
> broken.
Not here, it isn't.

> Look I need to say this; plasmoids are a very very nice idea. They look
> great and make the desktop look cool. The things is the desktop is next to
> useless. It gets covered up as soon as you use your computer to do anything
> at all. Unless of course the way you use your computer is to simply stare
> at your cool desktop. Heck I even have a package out there of a plasmoid.
> But being the end all and be all of windows management is a colossal
> mistake. Panels are the only app that makes the desktop constantly useful.
> Applets (ok plasmoids now) on panels when designed correctly places
> functionality, accessibility and information immediately available with a
> single click or quick glance regardless of what else is going on (except
> for full screen games :) ).
I can't understand what you are talking about.  There is no need for any 
plasmoid to be any bigger than you choose.  The ones I use take up a small 
proportion of my desktop, proportional, IMO, to the use I have for them.

> People use browsers, word processors, games, email client, im clients etc.
> The first app that gets opened makes the desktop disappear. If the apps
> don't work what good is the desktop other than to look pretty but dumb. I
> do not need my desktop or apps to be a huge blonde moment (male or female
> take your pick). I need to get the things done. If kde developers want to
> jerk around they're bored and get things half finished and then say brand
> new here it is. This whole process has been one the least professional
> processes I have been through in computing in a very long time. (Fedora /
> KDE people notwithstanding in this tirade they as usual do a superb job)
> then ignore their user base, well then there will be defection.  Which by
> the way I am seriously considering and trust me when I say this is painful
> for me since I have been a loyal and passionate kde user for years as Rex
> can attest. But enough is enough. If I wanted to install super karamba I
> would have installed super karamb a. Now KDE has pushed it down my throat
> in the form of plasmoids the very least they could do is have the thing
> work the way it should.
It is noticeable that the list of bugs you quote were all filed by you, and in 
most cases, in fact all but the last one, get little or no support from 
anyone else.  Your comments here are rude.  Developers have limited time and 
will always give their attention to the bug reports that seem to affect most 
people.  I find your self-admitted tirade unreasonable.

> 4.3 is a personal milestone for me. After a tirade like this one, to be
> fair I will wait till 4.4 and leave without a whisper (I'm sure some are
> saying yea!!! :)  ) . KDE either works the way it should or I will have to
> go elsewhere.
That is your choice.

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