Harmless KDE feature upgrades - yeah right

[Jaroslav Reznik]

On Thursday 04 March 2010 14:05:32 Martin Kho wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 March 2010 13:13:18 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > > On 03/04/2010 05:13 PM, Juha Tuomala wrote:
> > > > This is exactly kind off stuff I don't have time now to solve,
> > > > since I need to work. If such upgrade would have been put to
> > > > next coming release, I could have upgraded when I have time,
> > > > some weekend - it would not interrupted my working and ruin my
> > > > day.
> > > 
> > > Yes and it does happen now and then that updates like these cause end
> > > users some pain and while some users love to tinker and play with new
> > > features others see it as a hindrance even if it is purely enhancement
> > > with no regressions because even UI changes cause disruption in
> > > workflow setting aside all the possibility of regressions and I dont
> > > believe that Fedora has the right balance between innovation and
> > > stability (not merely robustness but any change for that matter) at
> > > the moment  (CentOS is far removed and rawhide is far too bleeding
> > > edge)
> > > 
> > > Whether it would be a separate backports repo or merely some more
> > > conservativeness in our update stream needs to be discussed and the
> > > current discussion has brought up very polarised opinions and at this
> > > point it would be useful to discuss detailed proposals than
> > > continuously repeating the same points in a circle
> > > 
> > > For your specific case please file bug reports
> > 
> > We (some KDE SIG people) are currently working on so called stability
> > proposal [1]. That means one bigger update per release as KDE schedules
> > are not in sync with Fedora releases. So this means - Fn release of
> > Fedora is getting updates and users will get fresh software (rawhide is
> > not an option), Fn-1 is considered as stable, without any "mayor"
> > updates but it's still quite fresh so users don't have (are not forced)
> > to switch to brand new release, probably breaking more than just update.
> > 
> > One of reasons we can be now much more conservative is that KDE is now in
> > very good shape and few releases ago we couldn't let users with for
> > example 4.0, 4.1 releases. Now it's not so important to do big steps as
> > changes are not so visible
> > 
> > FKDESCo is going to vote probably on next meeting, Tuesday 09 14:00 UTC.
> > So please, Fedora KDE users - comment these changes! We're working for
> > you! CC'ing kde at lists.fpo.
> > 
> > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Stability_Proposal
> 
> Hi,
> 
> To me, its good to hear that KDE SIG is choosing quality above regular -
> sometimes dirty - updates. Toyota can tell exactly what happens when you
> neglect quality :-)

It's still regular - but not so often -> more time to do it properly.

> Martin Kho
> 
> > Jaroslav
> > 
> > > Rahul
> 
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