Petrus beat me to it... :) but fyi, our initial batch of kde-4.5.3 packages (sans kde-l10n still working on that) are now in kde-testing (f13, f14 only for now, hopefully will find time to do f12 in the near future). So far so good, test test test. If we experience no badness in the next day or 2, we'll get these queue'd for updates-testing. -- Rex