4.11.1 / kopete / facebookchat

[Daniel Vrátil]

On Wednesday 18 of September 2013 20:35:38 Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 18.09.2013 20:01, schrieb Rex Dieter:
> > On 09/18/2013 12:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >> ktp finally pulls gtk-dep
> > 
> > Like what?
> 
> maybe this has changed in F19
> 
> 52 MB is still far too much for a messenger given that
> Apache/PHP does fit in this space and is much more complex
> 
> the last time i tried it because kopete for now does not support
> filetransfers i was unable to connect to facebookchat 

That might have been because of Facebook migrating to new servers - many 
people had problems. Now it works again.

> or our own jabber  server 

That's weird. Maybe you need to disable SSL, or enable "Ignore SSL errors"?

>and the fact that it does not minimize to systray
> and close the contact list doe snot behave like kopete makes it
> unuseable for me

If the concern is about staying online, when KTp contactlist is closed you are 
/not/ disconnected. The connection is maintained by Telepathy in the 
background. 

You can also add "Presence Applet" to systray, which will show your presence 
(status), allows to change it via popup menu and when you left-click the 
applet, it will open the contact list (so you get effectively the same behavior 
as with Kopete). Additionally there's a Plasma applet with contact list that 
can be nicely embedded into the panel so you don't even need to open a new 
window.

> with what i could libe is kopete using telepathy backends
> and not change the user interface/behaviour with only really
> needed dependencies (gnupnp is nothing i want on my systems)

Not sure how that would help - most of the 52MB is taken by Telepathy and it's 
dependencies. KTp itself is quite small (and you can uninstall parts you don't 
need).

Looking at the dependencies, it's a bit unfortunate that ktp-accounts-kcm 
pulls in so many Telepathy backends - most people could probably do just with 
telepathy-gabble (XMPP)...

Also please note that Kopete is considered unmaintained (although there were a 
few patches in 4.11) and it's future (longterm) is unclear.

Cheers,
Dan

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Daniel Vrátil
KDE Desktop Team
Associate Software Engineer, Red Hat, Inc.

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