criterion update: add "switch user" to Shutdown, reboot, logout

[Patrick Boutilier]

On 01/28/2015 09:41 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 07:51 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> we're discussing a release criterion which is tightly related to GNOME and KDE environments. Could your teams please provide some feedback on the proposed criterion update, see below? Is user switching something you believe should be working (and in which milestone?), or should we rather de-emphasize/remove that function?
>>
>> Please respond to the test@ list, if possible, to avoid fragmenting the discussion.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> yesterday we have discussed whether user switching should be included in our
>>> criteria. We agreed that Beta is a good target for it, and accepted this bug
>>> as a blocker:
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1184933
>>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719418
>>>
>>> Now we need to adjust this criterion:
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Beta_Release_Criteria#Shutdown.2C_reboot.2C_logout
>>> Shutting down, logging out and rebooting must work using standard console
>>> commands and the mechanisms offered (if any) by all release-blocking
>>> desktops.
>>> Work? [hide]
>>> Similar to the Alpha criterion for shutting down, shutdown and reboot
>>> mechanisms must take storage volumes down cleanly and correctly request a
>>> shutdown or reboot from the system firmware. Logging out must return the
>>> user to the environment from which they logged in, working as expected.
>>>
>>> I propose this change:
>>> title: Shutdown, reboot, logout, switch
>>> Shutting down, rebooting, logging out and user switching must work using
>>> standard console commands and the mechanisms offered (if any) by all
>>> release-blocking desktops.
>>> Work? [hide]
>>> Similar to the Alpha criterion for shutting down, shutdown and reboot
>>> mechanisms must take storage volumes down cleanly and correctly request a
>>> shutdown or reboot from the system firmware. Logging out must return the
>>> user to the environment from which they logged in, working as expected. User
>>> switching must allow multiple users to perform live switching between their
>>> sessions, working as expected.
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>
> I think user switching is much less important than the other things on
> your list (login, shutdown, reboot) - if user switching is broken, the
> majority of our users won't even notice because they are on single-user
> systems.
>
> Testing it is fine of course, but I don't really think we should block
> on this. Also worth considering: user switching has never worked 100%
> reliably, so increased qa focus may just uncover old heisenbugs, and
> turn them into blocking issues.


I use user switching frequently on my in-law's laptop. What is not 
reliable about it?








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