F22 KDE Systray Issue
Eric Griffith
egriffith92 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 24 05:22:35 UTC 2015
Quick Google search for "Gnome Shell Pidgin SysTray" had a fair few hits on
how to get a working icon back. So it would appear that Gnome also did
remove support for Xembed, likely even before KDE did.
On Jul 24, 2015 01:20, "Eric Griffith" <egriffith92 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't have my laptop in front of me to confirm but my guess is no. Moving
> away from Xembed and dropping support for it in a too-be-decided future
> version of the desktop environments was announced in 2011 with the advent
> of Status Notifiers and libappindicator.
> On Jul 24, 2015 01:12, "Reindl Harald" <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>
>> does the same application work on the Fedora default desktop (GNOME)?
>> if the answer is yes KDE is to blame, period
>>
>> Am 24.07.2015 um 06:59 schrieb Eric Griffith:
>>
>>> Reindl, I bash on a lot of design decision from the KDE and GNOME camps
>>> alike, but this wasn't one of them. Xembed had to go, it was a design
>>> nightmare. As far as who's fault it is.. I really gotta go with the apps
>>> on this one. They had four -years- of warning that the "traditional"
>>> xembed way of sys tray icons was going away eventually. If they couldnt
>>> find time to port over to Status Notifiers / App Indicators by then that
>>> that's their problem / or the project is dead anyway.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net
>>> <mailto:h.reindl at thelounge.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 24.07.2015 um 03:16 schrieb Markus Slopianka:
>>>
>>> On Thursday 23 July 2015 13:32:58 Emilio Recio wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of an app that can implement xembed feature?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
>>>
>>>
>>> Pidgin
>>>
>>>
>>> https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/rvokal/pidgin-indicator/
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a major fail for KDE, IMNSHO.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wrong. It's a major fail for your applications
>>>
>>>
>>> strange attitude - if *non-kde* apps have problems with the systray
>>> and did not before KDE5 it's hardly a failure of the application,
>>> it's *again* a incompatible and ignorant regression as it happens
>>> every few years so that i even start asking myself "am i right in my
>>> mind to use linux desktop"
>>>
>>> "fail for your applications" - WTF - the world of application
>>> developers don't turn around KDE and broken desktops, i heard the
>>> same b**** with the over a year flickering control bar with KDE 4.0
>>> in combination with nvidia cards - the same - it worked befor
>>> KDE3->KDE4, so KDE is the problem and not the card and it's the job
>>> of a developer to handle it if it has worked before AND NO "it's
>>> free" don't justify carelessly while whine every year why linux
>>> desktops are a niche and how to change that
>>>
>>> if developers like linux desktops no longer be a niche the just need
>>> to stop user visible major changes and breaking things which worked
>>> and are in use - that's it, no Fedora.next, just don't break the
>>> user expierience once per year and you will stop lose existing ones
>>> and get new ones which no longer need to fear that their workflow
>>> get broken again and again
>>>
>>
>>
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