Please Avoid Elipses in Subject Lines

[Eli Wapniarski]

Lol ... haven't seen an elipse since

and this is enough of this.

Rage on McDuff.



On Monday 11 May 2015 14:08:15 Reindl Harald wrote:
> no, you are too lazy to learn how to write score based rules,
> spamassassin is not rocket science
> 
> use a mail service with a maintained spamfilter if you are not able or
> too lazy to maintain it yourself but don't ask others to work around
> your intentional broken configuration
> 
> likely some spammers now have a big smile on their face because the same
> way you filter by wrong criteria someone can bypass that joke called a
> filter
> 
> Am 11.05.2015 um 14:03 schrieb Eli Wapniarski:
> > You got me Reindl... I am too lazy. I have better things to do with my
> > time
> > then to sift through tons of junk mail to pick out the extremely few mails
> > that would be good. And so yep... I'm gonna hammer rule.
> > 
> > If I don't receive mail oh well. If you don't care to have mail received,
> > oh well. Its lose / lose.
> > 
> > On Monday 11 May 2015 13:50:15 Reindl Harald wrote:
> >> Am 11.05.2015 um 13:43 schrieb Eli Wapniarski:
> >>> What makes the Elipse and for that matter any use of a period inside the
> >>> subject line so bad is that most filters rely on regular expressions to
> >>> filter. The period is a special character in regex processors which
> >>> means all. If one were to create a simple filter based on the period,
> >>> they would be blocking everything. So this trick is utilized to get past
> >>> those filters.
> >> 
> >> jesus christ then give that filter some score points instead
> >> unconditional block as well as train your bayes and use DNSWL with
> >> negative scores
> >> 
> >> last but not least add that line to your SA local.cf
> >> whitelist_auth *@lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> 
> >>> A manual creation of the filter which would include \. would be
> >>> required.
> >> 
> >> so what - you need to take care about escaping in general
> >> 
> >>> Until I created the filter to block out elipses. I would get all sorts
> >>> of bad mail trying to sell me all sorts of stuff that you would not want
> >>> sold to you, or to visit all sorts of sites you would not want your kids
> >>> to visit. So, to answer your question, yes I have blocked elipses for a
> >>> very long time. I will continue to block elipses, and I am quite
> >>> confident, because of this issue other aggressive filters will also
> >>> block them.
> >> 
> >> you do that because you are simply too lazy to train your filters
> >> because otherwise we would not be able block that sort of mails without
> >> creating hammer rules with false positives
> >> 
> >>> You can do what you wish. I am not going to get into a trolling match
> >> 
> >> well, you started the trolling with your "i am unable to configure a
> >> sane spamfilter and so ask the world to write around it for legit mails"
> >> 
> >>> with anyone. I am relating my experience and made a request thats all.
> >>> If you choose to continue using elipses thats fine thats up to you. :)
> >> 
> >> honestly if you would have expierience with spamfiltering you would
> >> write sane score rules instead ask the rest of the world to take care
> >> how to write their mails for not hit your broken configuration
> >> 
> >>> Quoting Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan at gmail.com>:
> >>>> On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 14:14 +0300, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> >>>>> Quoting Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan at gmail.com>:
> >>>>>> On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 11:23 +0300, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> >>>>>>> As a result, I had to filter them out. I am sure that other
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> aggressive
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>> anti spam filters will filter out those subjects as well.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Why? Is this a defining characteristic of spam? Are you also going to
> >>>>>> ask the rest of the Internet not to use ellipses in Subject lines?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Believe it or not.... it is.
> >>>> 
> >>>> A quick search on this list shows over a hundred such messages over the
> >>>> last few years. Similar searches on other lists show similar results.
> >>>> Are you saying that all these messages have been blocked by your spam
> >>>> filter? If so, you seriously need to think about changing it


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