Plasma 5 as a daily driver?

[Syam Krishnan]

On 11/10/2015 01:30 AM, P. Gueckel wrote:
> Ian Pilcher wrote:
>
>> I find myself wondering if other people are really
>> using Plasma 5 as a "daily driver"...
> It's a totally different world where I live :-) I've
> been using Plasma 5 since the beta was released.
> Excellent experience!

I had pretty much the same story to tell for Fedora 22. Apart from 
occasional crashes on exit, plasma was working fine for me.

Then I installed Fedora 23 - not an upgrade, but a clean install from 
the KDE live DVD, formatting over the existing partitions. And KDE was 
unusable.
It was not unusable because of some missing feature, but it would hang 
whenever I clicked on a partition in places panel in Dolphin, if I 
started Firefox,
or sometimes for no apparent reason. 100% reproducible.

Doing any of the above things would make the desktop hang (first the 
mouse movement gets affected then everything freezes). Switching to 
another VT (by Ctrl+Alt+Fx)
doesn't work and the only way out was a hard reboot.

I believe its a problem with NVidia, but I am unable to see why nouveau 
should have a problem. NVidia binary drivers reportedly does not support 
the pre-release version of Xorg server (v1.18) that is shipped with 
Fedora 23. But how come nouveau doesn't work?

I installed LXQt, but there also, starting any KDE application or 
LibreOffice caused the same issues.

The only way out was to downgrade Xorg to 1.17 and then install nvidia 
binary drivers from RPMFusion (perhaps nouveau would've worked too, but 
I'm not sure).


Anyway, the bottom line is that KDE Fedora 23 spin was unusable out of 
the box. This was the first time I cursed KDE. Not even during KDE 4.0 
things were this bad.


PS: While composing this email, I did 'dnf list installed "*xorg*"' and 
it didn't list the expected packages. It seems the 'exclude' set is 
honoured for even listing the installed files.



Syam