fedora l10n qa testday another slip

Ani peter apeter at redhat.com
Mon Sep 17 07:04:42 UTC 2012

On തിങ്കള്‍ 17 സെപ്റ്റംബര്‍ 2012 11:58 , Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
> (2012年 09月14日 15:19), A S Alam wrote:
>> 09/12/2012 04:01 PM ਨੂੰ, Noriko Mizumoto ਨੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ:
>>> (2012年09月11日 20:49), Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday 11 of September 2012 12:12:36 apeter at redhat.com wrote:
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>> We have tried installing Alpha TC5 and its working (we are testing 
>>>>> the
>>>>> currently prepared test cases). Do you really think its necessary to
>>>>> postpone the l10n testing? Or can we go ahead testing with the 
>>>>> scheduled
>>>>> date [1]  with available ISO?
>>>> There's also RC2 now available, at least Lives seems ok to me, 
>>>> trying DVD
>>>> installation right now. So I hope we are very close to the final 
>>>> Alpha.
>>> Thank you for these good news, confirming that recent lives start 
>>> working.
>>> I've read others posts too.
>>> Please notice that we are NOT using any TC or RC. Because those
>>> generally do not contain latest translation, and no point to have
>>> l10n-qa-test with such image. The image must be composed specifically
>>> for l10n-qa-test with latest translation by release engineering, and
>>> will be composed for this purpose. This has been discussed, confirmed
>>> and approved between FLSCO and FESCO. Besides, TC or RC may be used for
>>> i18n-qa-test. These two tests are different with separate purpose and
>>> process.
>>> A request of repackaging with latest translation and a request of
>>> composing the image from them are made to fedora package maintainers 
>>> and
>>> release engineering respectively, a week and a few days before the test
>>> day accordingly. It means that allowing more time increases the chance
>>> for smaller teams to have a image with more translation completed to
>>> test. In other words, a image to be composed end of next week can
>>> contain more translation than a image to be composed end of this week.
>>> With this point of view, I see beneficial to follow the slip. In
>>> addition, assuming many or some of translators are also busy 
>>> translating
>>> Gnome 3.6 which translation deadline is 25-Sep and will be part of F18,
>>> it would also be good idea to have qa-test-day on 27-Sep after this 
>>> due.
>>> However, if majority of translators feel comfortable to stick with
>>> 2012-09-20, l10n-qa-test should be organized with such date.
>>> I will be out of town tomorrow and Friday and no access to internet. If
>>> l10n-qa-test day stays same 2012-09-20, the above requests need to be
>>> organized asap.  Could you please someone organize instead? Repackaging
>>> request simply can be sent out to devel-announcement ML. For composing,
>>> please refer to the tickets [1] and [2].
>>> [1]:https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5306
>>> [2]:https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/301
>> request for get latest build from updates-testing already sent 
>> (thanks tagoh), so currently continue with mentioned dates.
>>  - Need to send request on devel-announcement mailing list
>>  - test ISO (with i18n
>> Alpha GOLD declared, so it can be installed and updated for testing.
> I can see the request for i18n test, not l10n test.
> As said before, sending request to devel-announcement is must for l10n 
> test. Otherwise package maintainers won't pick up, rebuild and push 
> their packages with latest translation. There is no request found in 
> the archive [1], therefore we can not expect any build containing 
> latest translation to test atm. Please notice that i18n test and l10n 
> test are different, and can be organized separately.
> [1]:http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2012-September/thread.html 
> noriko

We can have the l10n test day postponed to Sep 27th. Lets discuss about 
the same on the ticket. Accordingly mails will be sent to all list 
including devel-announcement list.

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