fedora l10n qa testday another slip

Noriko Mizumoto noriko.mizumoto at gmail.com
Mon Sep 17 07:45:29 UTC 2012

(2012年09月17日 17:04), Ani peter wrote:
> On തിങ്കള്‍ 17 സെപ്റ്റംബര്‍ 2012 11:58 , Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>> (2012年 09月14日 15:19), A S Alam wrote:
>>> 09/12/2012 04:01 PM ਨੂੰ, Noriko Mizumoto ਨੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ:
>>>> (2012年09月11日 20:49), Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday 11 of September 2012 12:12:36 apeter at redhat.com wrote:
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>> We have tried installing Alpha TC5 and its working (we are 
>>>>>> testing the
>>>>>> currently prepared test cases). Do you really think its necessary to
>>>>>> postpone the l10n testing? Or can we go ahead testing with the 
>>>>>> scheduled
>>>>>> date [1]  with available ISO?
>>>>> There's also RC2 now available, at least Lives seems ok to me, 
>>>>> trying DVD
>>>>> installation right now. So I hope we are very close to the final 
>>>>> Alpha.
>>>> Thank you for these good news, confirming that recent lives start 
>>>> working.
>>>> I've read others posts too.
>>>> Please notice that we are NOT using any TC or RC. Because those
>>>> generally do not contain latest translation, and no point to have
>>>> l10n-qa-test with such image. The image must be composed specifically
>>>> for l10n-qa-test with latest translation by release engineering, and
>>>> will be composed for this purpose. This has been discussed, confirmed
>>>> and approved between FLSCO and FESCO. Besides, TC or RC may be used 
>>>> for
>>>> i18n-qa-test. These two tests are different with separate purpose and
>>>> process.
>>>> A request of repackaging with latest translation and a request of
>>>> composing the image from them are made to fedora package 
>>>> maintainers and
>>>> release engineering respectively, a week and a few days before the 
>>>> test
>>>> day accordingly. It means that allowing more time increases the chance
>>>> for smaller teams to have a image with more translation completed to
>>>> test. In other words, a image to be composed end of next week can
>>>> contain more translation than a image to be composed end of this week.
>>>> With this point of view, I see beneficial to follow the slip. In
>>>> addition, assuming many or some of translators are also busy 
>>>> translating
>>>> Gnome 3.6 which translation deadline is 25-Sep and will be part of 
>>>> F18,
>>>> it would also be good idea to have qa-test-day on 27-Sep after this 
>>>> due.
>>>> However, if majority of translators feel comfortable to stick with
>>>> 2012-09-20, l10n-qa-test should be organized with such date.
>>>> I will be out of town tomorrow and Friday and no access to 
>>>> internet. If
>>>> l10n-qa-test day stays same 2012-09-20, the above requests need to be
>>>> organized asap.  Could you please someone organize instead? 
>>>> Repackaging
>>>> request simply can be sent out to devel-announcement ML. For 
>>>> composing,
>>>> please refer to the tickets [1] and [2].
>>>> [1]:https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5306
>>>> [2]:https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/301
>>> request for get latest build from updates-testing already sent 
>>> (thanks tagoh), so currently continue with mentioned dates.
>>>  - Need to send request on devel-announcement mailing list
>>>  - test ISO (with i18n
>>> Alpha GOLD declared, so it can be installed and updated for testing.
>> I can see the request for i18n test, not l10n test.
>> As said before, sending request to devel-announcement is must for 
>> l10n test. Otherwise package maintainers won't pick up, rebuild and 
>> push their packages with latest translation. There is no request 
>> found in the archive [1], therefore we can not expect any build 
>> containing latest translation to test atm. Please notice that i18n 
>> test and l10n test are different, and can be organized separately.
>> [1]:http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2012-September/thread.html 
>> noriko
> We can have the l10n test day postponed to Sep 27th. Lets discuss 
> about the same on the ticket. Accordingly mails will be sent to all 
> list including devel-announcement list.

Thanks heaps, ani!!

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> Ani
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