[Bug 13416] Font subfamilies merged

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Thu Mar 25 11:20:44 UTC 2010


http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13416





--- Comment #16 from Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net>  2010-03-25 04:20:42 PST ---
This is fine in theory but who is going to write the quirks? We don't even have
correct fontconfig configuration for all non-broken fonts in Fedora for
example, let alone broken out-of-distribution fonts (and people have failed to
find the correct settings for CJK for years).

If you want to write quirks, fontconfig has public documentation about its
config syntax, we've added some fedora-side in fontpackages-devel, etc. So,
nothing here to stop you now. But it is much easier for a font author to fix
its font than to try to intercept all the ways applications query font metadata
and fix it up at this level. (because fonts formats have accumulated over the
years *many* different naming layers and you can't guess beforehand which one
an app will use, or worse which *mix* of accesses it's going to try, assuming
they are consistent when the data font side is not).

And it remains that the apps people complain of most (openoffice.org, firefox,
inkscape, etc) have broken font handling (as in, they've implemented 80% of
what's needed and someone who cares will do the rest) that shows breakage as
soon as they get fed non-trivial fonts. And the breakage is *not* in fontconfig
it's in the use of the library application-side. So it's *useless* to try to
fix fonts of fake font characteristics at fontconfig level if you don't get the
apps fixed first.

Complex fonts work in Adobe apps for example because Adobe did its work (1.
released complex fonts *and* 2. added needed bits ui-side so the new features
could be accessed). You're asking to avoid doing 2. and avoid fixing 1. when it
has bugs and somehow magically get the same result as in Adobe apps through
some fontconfig miracle. It's not going to happen. Fontconfig is good, but not
that good.


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