[RFC] CUDCon - Cloud conference to parallel FUDCon

Ben Williams jbwillia at math.vt.edu
Tue Aug 23 12:17:25 UTC 2011

To be truthful i see this more as a marketing issue than any other, 
Fudcon Tempe had a Full Day of cloud sessions that came from the BarCamp

Now with that said, I can see you point as well. Fudcon Blacksburg has 
plenty of space so I see no problem at this time to giving cloud their 
own section

As we discussed in IRC, I see this more as budget issue more than 
anything else. (you got the money honey, I got the space and time)

On 08/22/2011 05:48 PM, Karsten Wade wrote:
> We love the Fedora FUDCon model. Just as JBoss did with JUDCon, I'd
> like to start a new users and developers-focused conference around
> cloud efforts that relate to Fedora and, by effect, Red Hat's cloud
> and virtualization efforts.
> Not-so-tentatively called CUDCon, "Ruminate with us about clouds!",
> the Cloud Users and Developers Conference (beginning) idea is:
> * Go alongside an existing FUDCon.
> ** Existing base of users and developers who are naturally interested
>     in the technical focus of CUDCon.
> ** Attract wider range and more sponsorship.
> ** Cross-seed people and talks so cloud-related talks at FUDCon are
>     also part of CUDCon.
> ** Grow attendance at FUDCon by bringing in cloud-focused people who
>     might not otherwise attend.
> * Bring in open community cloud efforts of all backgrounds that are
>    built on an open source stack that include Fedora or its
>    remixes/downstreams such as RHEL, CentOS, etc.
> ** Nice-sized ecosystem without saying, "Everyone and everything."
> ** Sponsors should (MUST?) come from that milieu - be contributors to
>     open community cloud efforts that fit within the Fedora/RHEL
>     ecosystem.
> * Participation point for upstream components that could play in/run
>    on Fedora-family technology.
> I'd like to run the first mini-CUDCon as a cloud track for FUDCon
> Milan, then the first full-CUDCon at FUDCon Blacksburg 2012. (I'll be
> contacting those organizers separately from here.) I'm interested in
> your reaction to this idea before I get too much farther. :)
> There are a few reasons for doing a stand-alone conference brand from
> FUDCon and Fedora. One of these is that it's harder to argue that some
> cloud efforts fit within FUDCon. For example, Red Hat's OpenShift is
> built from Fedora-sourced components, on an open source architecture
> that includes Fedora technologies, but it is not yet entirely open
> source, so it doesn't have (m)any components in the Fedora package
> repo. Some open cloud communities may want to play in the Fedora space
> even if there isn't going to be a pure set of packages to
> install. CUDCon is a place to have these crossover discussions, as a
> catalyst and sowing-of-grass for future efforts.
> Audience:
> * People who may think, "Our open source cloud software is not in
> Fedora, so FUDCon isn't for us."
> ** They benefit from exposure to FUDCon.
> ** Way to include increased cloud interest without diluting or
> distracting the FUDCon focus.
> ** Cross-seeding with FUDCon possible but no mandatory, more relaxed
> exchange of ideas.
> * Fedora-family of developers, administrators, and users (including
> RHEL/CentOS/Scientific Linux).
> * Open source cloud enthusiasts.
> ** Folks who are interested in learning or teaching about open source
> cloud.
> * Individuals or organizations developing and deploying in the cloud.
> * Software companies with one or more open source cloud components in
> their stack.
> I'll be updating the proposal based on feedback and planning, so watch
> this wiki page:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CUDCon_proposal
> - Karsten
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