FUDCon Paris Hotel options

[Jaroslav Reznik]

----- Original Message -----
> On 05/16/2012 08:32 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >>>> We have a deal with an hotel, for 30 twins and 3 nights:
> >>>> A twin at 81€ (exclusive of taxes) per night.
> >>> And the tax is?
> >> +19.6%
> >>
> >>
> >>>> I've asked famsco to describe me how to manage rooms
> >>>> reservation/fees
> >>>> with regard to the contributors,
> >>>> but they just asked me back for precisions. I haven't given
> >>>> precise
> >>>> question yet.
> >>>>
> >>>> Which is:
> >>>> How to manage this hotel reservation:
> >>>> - Do I have to assign a room for all that asked for?
> >>> I expect we should prefer sponsored/rh people but we should not
> >>> deny
> >>> individual contributors to have this rate if there's room.
> >>>
> >>>> - Who is going to pay, Red Hat for all or one contributor could
> >>>> pay
> >>>> by
> >>>> itself but with our special rates (pay back to Red Hat?)
> >>> Last year we paid it separately - for Brno guys I paid it
> >>> together,
> >>> Jared paid for Fedora sponsored people and there were few
> >>> individuals
> >>> too (or smaller Red Hat teams, not sure right now ;-).
> >> I would prefer if it could be paid by RH and then individuals to
> >> reimburse back RH, or our NPO could be the buffer, as our hotel
> >> would
> >> like to be paid with only two payment (first to confirm the
> >> reservation and then to paid the whole part a month before)
> >> Should I see with Robyn, as the FPL is managing budget?
> > It can be quite difficult for us to do cross department payments
> > but
> > if hotel insist on a one big payment, I think we can deal with it.
> So we discussed this a bit last week in the EMEA Ambassador meeting,
> but
> just to follow up here:
> 
> It's a lot easier to have the ability to have people book their own
> rooms from a block with our name on it, and then have Red Hat pick up
> the tab for sponsored rooms onsite (including having multiple
> departments pick up their portion - ie. folks sponsored vs. Brno
> Attendees can be paid for separately).

Yep, it would be much much easier to be able to deal with payment 
separately. As we can expect a few individual groups (even Brno folks
will form several independent groups with different budget etc. -
Fedora QA, Base OS, docs guys, some cloud guys).

With Jiri, we are trying to get a final number for this hotel. I think
we should set some deadline for room blocking (it's really the only way
to push some people to action :-).
 
> What we normally do is work with the hotel to come up with a final
> number of rooms for a block, and we put a credit card down for that,
> and
> if individuals don't utilize the number of rooms then we pay some %
> portion of the difference.
> 
> Are they really unwilling to hold a block of rooms until a certain
> date,
> and are they also unwilling to do anything other than "we must book
> and
> pay for the full block of rooms" vs. what I outlined above?

I unfortunately missed the end of EMEA meeting (and was waiting for 
this topic but you know - bug blocking F17 ;-) - is it really true
it's difficult to find affordable rooms in FUDCon time? Otherwise it
will be option for us to have a separate one... Even it would cost
more... 

> We can't do a "pay back Red Hat" situation (no way to receive money).
>  I
> suppose the NPO route is possible but then you'd need to be able to
> apply some of that money towards FUDCon, and I would suspect you
> won't
> see some of that money until FUDCon. Additionally, lots of people do
> want to use credit cards and not cash for paying for their hotel
> (receipts for work, etc.) and I suspect the NPO has no way to take
> credit cards for payment, at least not in any way that would provide
> something workable for attendees to have as a receipt.

Cash expense for bigger group could be fun (but I expect we can deal
with expense report individually but I expect some people will be
unwilling to pay the money...). 

It will be still great to make it possible, to have all contributors
on same place to have more fun.

R.

> Thoughts? Kevin, have you spoken with the hotel since last week?
> 
> -Robyn
> 
> >> If you know how many your are going to be, I can ask for more
> >> twins
> >> in
> >> our contract, I have asked for 60 people like I was recommended to
> >> do,
> >> but it would be hard to ask for more in a month.
> > As I said - not sure how many people will come, with Jiri, we try
> > to
> > get the number right now. Fedora QA will have meeting with theirs
> > boss tmrw, I have to ask Fedora Docs team too (and probably other
> > people will be interested too, but no reply yet...).
> >
> > R.
> >
> >>>> - How is it linked to the $$$ column on the reservation table?
> >>>>
> >>>> - I could also ask for more rooms, but we won't have so much
> >>>> time.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have the EMEA meeting tonight, I am not sure to be able to
> >>>> join,
> >>>> (would be traveling), but if you could bring this question that
> >>>> could
> >>>> help.
> >>> I'll try to join it too (it's after Board, so I'll be online).
> >>>
> >>> R.
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>> (shaiton)
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