FYI, as F13 is still some months away and Wesnoth 1.8 development is moving steadily, I've updated rawhide's Wesnoth to 1.7.12, or Beta 5. This should be data-compatible with 1.8 when it comes out, so any saved games, etc, you start now should be fine. -J -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie