[fedora-india] Ambassadors in India

[Ashwin]

On 05/11/2010 12:35 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> hey,
> 
> On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 12:18 +0530, Ashwin wrote:
>>
>> I decided a path forward to spread LINUX when none existed, right from
>> Redhat 6.0 days. If you ridicule that effort, may be you are at a loss
>> and not me. 
> 
> We are not ridiculing you. It is your decision to volunteer whole
> heartedly for the project and take responsibilities for your actions. We
> will gain if you decide to join the community and provide input but will
> not lose out if you don't.

You did ridicule.

> 
> The path you decided at that time may not be the one that is needed
> anymore. Different situations and different times require different
> ideas(paths). It is wrong to maintain the same policies over a period of
> change. 

Right or wrong is my perogative, you have no right to state as wrong in
what I believe and practice. Period.

> 
>> Community activity is more like an advertisement for a short
>> while like a meet or event,
> 
> It is not. I've been here since F8 and I don't intend to stop being a
> part of the community in the future. This depends on your motivation to
> work.

Accepted. There is no indication to stop. You have a habit of reading
more than what is stated. Why ?

> 
>>  what is more required is to hand hold and
>> spoon feed new converts to LINUX
> 
> We do this at our LUGs etc. to get people started into Linux. I don't
> believe in spoon feeding people into contributing. 
> 
>>  and iron out their small difficulties,
>> which is only possible by a personal and individual attention.
> 
> I disagree. Personal/individual attention means I help one person only.
> When Rahul took a workshop on RPM, it helped *many* people and they are
> now contributing as packagers. Clearly you see the flaw in your
> paradigm. 
> 

It is time you start finding faults and flaws in your own methods.

>>  What
>> makes you assume that I am not aware or active with LUG in my place ?
>>
>>>
>>> Fedora as a project has been giving lot of resources for ambassadors
>>> like server space and also some fedora goodies ( They should encourage
>>> you :P )
>>>
>>
>> I have been around in this activity which pre-dates Fedora.
>> The only goodies the Fedora can offer me is to have a little more broad
>> minded vision for future, without demanding performance from the
>> community in the name of accountability but cajoling them to perform by
>> increasing the self-awareness of responsibility one holds in her/his
>> position as an ambassador.
>>
>> with Regards
>> ASHWIN
> 
> I see I failed miserably in my attempt. You being around before Fedora
> is no criterion at all. People were around in 1000BC, doesn't mean their
> methods or thinking are better than what we have today. 
> 

If you failed, blame it on yourself (and be accountable if you want).

I pre-date homo erectus, I live in a cave and have not learnt yet to
light a fire, hope this makes you happy. (See you ridiculed again)

But I have my views they are as much relevant today as they were at any
other time and you have no right to rubbish it.

with Regards,
ASHWIN