OpenSUSE Build Service?

[Dan Williams]

On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 18:28 -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 13:39 +0100, Jeroen Janssen wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm not sure if this is the correct Fedora mailinglist, but has anyone
> > had a look at the OpenSuSe Build Service pages (
> > http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service )?
> > 
> > There are two presentations (from FOSDEM) about it and it seems they
> > have also done some experimenting with building non SuSe distributions
> > with this build system (like Fedora Core 4).
> > 
> > Is this something that also could benefit the Fedora Project?
> 
> Having already written most of Plague by the time OSBS came out, I read
> over pretty much everything about it when it was announced last year.  
> 
> The purpose of the two do seem to overlap; however OSBS appears to have
> a much larger scope.  It appears to try to be the one-stop shop for
> building _everything_ for any distribution with any build system or
> source-control system; which is fine.  The pitch in those slides was
> basically "build your release packages on our buildsystem."
> 
> I don't think we want such a wide scope and fuzzy focus.  I think Fedora
> is better served by a specific, targetted system that builds _Fedora_
> packages.  That's a fairly parochial attitude, but one which I think is
> in the best interest of Fedora.  Given that everyone working on and
> admining the Fedora Extras buildsystem is a volunteer, we don't need to
> be spreading our resources out even further supporting something like
> the OSBS.  We should be concentrating on building excellent packages for
> Fedora, and arguably nothing else; we cannot be everything to everybody
> or we are doomed to fail.
> 
> The building of packages is such an important and code piece of a
> distribution that it cannot _not_ be under the control of the project,
> and it cannot _not_ be _accountable_ to the project.  As more of the
> Core responsibility gets spun out to the wider Fedora project, this only
> becomes more critical.  We need to be able to admin the systems, we need
> to be able fix problems when they arise, we need to be able to
> demonstrate accountability and security of the buildsystem.  Without
> that, there is no trust in the integrity of the distribution.

This doesn't mean that code could be shared, of course, given compatible
licensing.

dan

> Cheers,
> Dan
> 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Jeroen Janssen
> > 
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