Blog syndication for GSoC - ers

Matt Domsch Matt_Domsch at dell.com
Tue May 27 18:16:52 UTC 2008


On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 01:54:08PM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-05-27 at 12:46 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 May 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2008-05-27 at 10:28 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 27 May 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 23:27 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Alternatively, perhaps we should just have an GSoC group?  These guys
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > technically contributors...
> > > > >
> > > > > I didn't realize this discussion was cross-posted, I already sent my
> > > > > agreement to this idea to the other thread.  Having a group 'gsoc_2008'
> > > > > or 'summercoders_2008' could help more than just this problem.  As was
> > > > > said elsewhere, these _are_ Fedora contributors, but they don't all fit
> > > > > directly in to an existing group, or their contributions are being
> > > > > filtered outside of the group.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why not just gsoc?  I don't understand what we gain from the _2008?
> > >
> > > Gain, not sure.  Lose, the ability to differentiate between groups.
> > >
> > > A main purpose of GSoC is to get more coders into more projects.
> > >
> > > For this reason, all students who stick around Fedora should be in other
> > > groups.  Their continued presence in "last year's group" should *not* be
> > > construed as an ongoing contributor effort.  By the end of this Summer,
> > > the group is essentially defunct.  If that is the only group someone is
> > > in, and six months later ... it's still the only group, then they aren't
> > > contributing to any coding projects.  If they move on to Ambassadors,
> > > then they are in another group, are contributing, etc.
> > >
> > > Does that make sense?
> > >
> > > For a similar reason, I recommend a generic name.  Maybe all interns and
> > > summer coders could be in the group.  That way we can include the
> > > Finnish Summer Code effort into this, and any RHT interns that aren't
> > > part of another group (yet.)
> > >
> > 
> > In 2009, what use will the gsoc_2008 group be?  I had assumed that at the
> > end of summery 2008, the gsoc group would be cleared out except for admins
> > and sponsors.  Similar to what would happen with ols.
> > 
> 
> I think what Karsten is saying (maybe) is that remembering to clear our
> the group is something ELSE we have to do. with a group with a year in
> the name we can just delete the group w/o having to check who is in it,
> or not.

Or, really, shouldn't the student be included in some existing group
now, and not create a new gsoc group at all?  If the point is to get
them involved in Fedora and to keep contributing after the summer is
over, then being a part of a group that's directly related to the work
they're doing, not how they're being mentored via GSOC, makes sense to
me.

Yes, we can create groups if they're beneficial, but being in the
sysadmin-web group, or the gittransifex group, would seem to make more
sense.


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Matt Domsch
Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO
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