Minutes/Summary from meeting (2011-07-07 at 19:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting)

Kevin Fenzi kevin at scrye.com
Thu Jul 7 19:48:31 UTC 2011

#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2011-07-07)

Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available at

Meeting summary
* Robot Roll Call  (nirik, 19:00:02)

* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks  (nirik, 19:03:40)

* Upcoming Tasks/Items  (nirik, 19:06:39)

* infra-hosts repo  (nirik, 19:11:50)

* Meeting tagged tickets  (nirik, 19:22:47)
  * LINK:
    (nirik, 19:22:48)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 19:35:29)

Meeting ended at 19:47:02 UTC.

Action Items

Action Items, by person
  * (none)

People Present (lines said)
* skvidal (63)
* nirik (62)
* smooge (18)
* abadger1999 (12)
* CodeBlock (5)
* zodbot (4)
* LoKoMurdoK (4)
* StylusEater (3)
* athmane (1)
* marchant (1)
* rbergeron (1)
* gomix (1)
* ricky (0)
* codeblock (0)
19:00:02 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2011-07-07)
19:00:02 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul  7 19:00:02 2011 UTC.  The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:00:02 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
19:00:02 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
19:00:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:02 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call
19:00:02 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal codeblock ricky nirik abadger1999
19:00:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 codeblock nirik ricky skvidal smooge
19:00:48 * skvidal is here
19:01:07 * athmane is here
19:01:17 * CodeBlock here
19:02:10 * gomix lurks
19:02:19 <smooge> here
19:03:13 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and dive in.
19:03:40 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks
19:03:53 <nirik> Any new folks want to say hi? any questions or comments on apprentice tasks?
19:05:17 * nirik listens to the crickets.
19:05:46 <nirik> reminder to all apprentice folks: please send me a reply to my july 1st email... I am going to be removing inactive folks in the next few days. ;)
19:05:52 <nirik> and thanks to those who have replied. ;)
19:05:53 <smooge> :)
19:06:18 <nirik> ok, moving along then...
19:06:23 * marchant is here
19:06:30 <nirik> welcome marchant
19:06:39 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
19:07:19 <nirik> The big thing coming up is that smooge and I will be out in phoenix next week... monday - thursday. I will be taking friday off (but should be around for emerg issues)
19:07:41 <nirik> so, if other folks could try and be extra around to help out that would be great. I'm not sure how much irc time we will have.
19:08:14 <nirik> monday we are going to try and do some inventory/cataloging what we have
19:08:24 <nirik> and also pulling old OOW servers.
19:08:38 <nirik> and install a community-virthost01 in a new rack
19:09:05 <nirik> tuesday is more of the same + at 6pm we are going to move qa and secondary arch machines to a new rack
19:09:28 <nirik> wed and thur we are going to be getting a new tape system setup and happy.
19:10:11 <nirik> Any other upcoming tasks folks would like to talk about?
19:10:44 <nirik> after next week, we will have some new machines racked, so will be moving off older ones that are rhel5 to new ones that are rhel6.
19:11:29 <skvidal> yay!
19:11:44 <nirik> skvidal: you want to talk a bit about the infra-hosts repo?
19:11:48 <skvidal> sure
19:11:50 <nirik> #topic infra-hosts repo
19:12:11 <skvidal> so - ricky and I had talked about this a while back
19:12:20 <skvidal> essentially needing some place to store all the info about our hosts
19:12:25 <skvidal> and keep it more current
19:12:48 <skvidal> and also to let us control certain recurring events from a central server (ie: puppet disabling/enabling)
19:13:04 <skvidal> and track common info in one place that's revision control
19:13:20 <skvidal> so I made a git repo on lockbox01 of infra-hosts
19:13:24 <skvidal> we have a dir per host
19:13:32 <skvidal> and info in files/dirs under that dir
19:13:40 <skvidal> it's pretty obvious and straightforward
19:13:46 <skvidal> we have a file called run-puppet
19:13:56 <skvidal> if that file is there then the hosts will run-puppet in their cron runs
19:13:59 <skvidal> if the file is removed
19:14:01 <skvidal> then they won't
19:14:09 <skvidal> I'm sure we'll be doing other things like that as time goes on
19:14:24 <skvidal> right now I'm working on a script to populate the physical hw with important info about each
19:14:32 <skvidal> so we can more easily query it when we need it
19:14:35 <skvidal> and to check up o nit
19:14:39 <skvidal> err check up on it
19:14:51 <skvidal> I encourage everyone to make notes on servers they know about
19:15:04 <skvidal> if there is something 'odd' about a server add a 'notes' file and annotate it
19:15:25 <nirik> sounds good.
19:15:25 <skvidal> I'll probably write a simple script
19:15:32 <skvidal> to search and return info from this tree
19:15:46 <skvidal> but in general it is just a dir full of dirs and files
19:15:52 <skvidal> we could, eventually, turn it into a db
19:15:52 <nirik> ls / grep /find should operate on it nicely too.
19:16:00 <skvidal> but I wanted to make it simple for grpe/find
19:16:04 <skvidal> and for git
19:16:05 <skvidal> nirik: exactly
19:16:12 <skvidal> that's really it
19:16:20 <skvidal> if anyone has ideas on how we should be use it
19:16:23 <skvidal> or things to do with it
19:16:30 <skvidal> email the list or ping on irc
19:16:42 <nirik> sounds good.
19:17:30 <smooge> cool. I started on this with GLPI at home to help me keep track of stuff
19:17:41 <smooge> but this is much more practical for our uses
19:17:54 <abadger1999> Very nice.  virthosts and package info candidates to live in there?
19:18:05 <skvidal> abadger1999: package info candidantes/
19:18:36 <skvidal> abadger1999: I think what lives there is flexible and definitely up for discussion/suggestion
19:18:50 <abadger1999> <nod>
19:19:03 <skvidal> abadger1999: it's a dir full of other dirs - and it is git-controlled so it's not like anything cannot be undone :)
19:19:29 <skvidal> abadger1999: if you have ideas - that's great
19:20:09 <abadger1999> Where do the scripts live/run that populate the informational portions?
19:20:16 <nirik> yeah, I think we can come up with some cool ideas here, and in the mean time it works great for puppet and notes.
19:20:44 <skvidal> abadger1999: in the main dir
19:20:51 <skvidal> abadger1999: right now I just have sync-hosts
19:20:55 <skvidal> which is kinda obvious
19:21:04 <skvidal> I'm working on another one for populating hw
19:21:17 <abadger1999> <nod>  I'll take a look there later.
19:22:14 <nirik> cool. Anything else on this?
19:22:19 <skvidal> not from me
19:22:47 <nirik> #topic Meeting tagged tickets
19:22:48 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&group=milestone&keywords=~Meeting&order=priority
19:22:57 <nirik> any meeting tagged tickets folks want to discuss?
19:23:42 <smooge> one sec
19:24:58 <smooge> I would like to have a one off "meeting" where we go down the list of open tickets and either "tag for meetings, keep in the bucket, close"
19:25:27 <smooge> I know I have a bunch of tickets in my queue which I am not sure how relevan they are any more
19:25:36 <nirik> sounds good.
19:26:09 <abadger1999> smooge: Sounds good -- do you have any idea how many tickets would need info-needed-from-not-infra-person to know what to do with?
19:26:11 <nirik> we could just do that now? or should we do it out of band?
19:26:49 <smooge> nirik, I was thinking of out of band. its over a hundred
19:27:01 <nirik> we could clean up the meeting ones now perhaps... keep, untag from meeting, close
19:27:19 <nirik> smooge: yeah. I have been working on cutting down tickets... would be good to go over more.
19:27:34 <nirik> I've also noticed there are a number of RFR tickets I am unsure of the status on.
19:28:16 * StylusEater is late ... sorry
19:28:25 <nirik> StylusEater: welcome. no problem.
19:29:02 <nirik> 2544 doesn't need to be meeting. Should happen next week. ;)
19:31:09 <nirik> I'd be happy to meet with anyone out of band and go over tickets and get more cleaned up. ;)
19:31:30 <StylusEater> I might have time this Sunday... :-/
19:31:46 <abadger1999> Speaking of rfr... I started this the other week but don't really have the energy to see it to completion: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/From_RFR_to_production_service
19:32:11 <abadger1999> Needs more criteria filled in and be merged somehow with our RFR page/description/expectations.
19:32:31 <nirik> abadger1999: I could try and do that. I fixed up some other things on the rfr page the other day.
19:32:32 <smooge> ok nirik I can do it tomorrow.
19:32:46 <nirik> smooge: cool. Just ping me and we can start digging thru them.
19:33:19 <abadger1999> nirik: Thanks!
19:33:29 * nirik makes a note.
19:33:59 <nirik> we have several rfrs that basically got no one moving them forward, and a bunch where i don't know the status. I guess I can try and get them all in the same bucket and start pinging them.
19:35:29 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:35:34 <nirik> anyone have items for open floor?
19:36:10 <skvidal> just one thing I wanted to mention
19:36:22 <skvidal> I am going to be on PTO mon,tue and wed of this coming week
19:36:46 <skvidal> I'll check email from time to time but various folks have my phone number if shit goes sideways
19:37:00 <skvidal> and since nirik and smooge will be randomly dropping servers in phx2
19:37:03 <CodeBlock> so smooge nirik and skvidal are all out early next week?
19:37:08 <skvidal> I expect something will go sideways
19:37:15 <skvidal> ;)
19:37:16 <smooge> CodeBlock, yes
19:37:18 * nirik will try and not walk sideways. ;)
19:37:33 <skvidal> nirik: I thought you had to in order to get between the racks ;)
19:37:37 <smooge> CodeBlock, it is a ripe time for a coup-de-tat
19:37:40 <CodeBlock> I will try to be extra-around-more-than-i-have-been-lately next week. Which isn't that hard to beat
19:37:57 * StylusEater hears the lyrics *walk this way*
19:37:57 * skvidal wonders if ricky is going to be keyboarded
19:38:12 <abadger1999> :-)
19:38:38 <abadger1999> nirik: Question on phx stuff next week:  No anticipated outages from that right?
19:38:47 <smooge> no there will be
19:38:51 <nirik> abadger1999: except for the qa servers and secondary arch stuff.
19:39:04 <smooge> there will be autoqa and secondary arc
19:39:19 <smooge> and then we will be cleaning up wiring while we make sure we have stuff properly labeled
19:39:41 <skvidal> and whatever server is taken down due to the drinking games
19:39:48 <nirik> yeah, so there could be blips if we need to re-cable something, but will try and keep that to a min.
19:39:51 <abadger1999> Okay.  So two specific areas for us to watch and then wiring -- that'll potentially be any service?
19:39:54 <smooge> we will announce before we do that.. though I will try to time it with every time someone commits to git
19:40:05 <skvidal> smooge: nice
19:40:14 <smooge> skvidal, its the least I can do
19:40:16 <skvidal> smooge: time it for 23m and 53m after the hour
19:40:24 <skvidal> smooge: so we can't tell if it is puppet or osmething else
19:40:27 <nirik> we could also be consumed in a dust storm.
19:40:32 <smooge> yummy
19:40:40 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah. But hopefully/ideally not any.
19:40:49 <skvidal> nirik: indeed
19:41:22 <abadger1999> Cool.  Just figuring out what to expect as normal for next week vs something unrelated breaking :-)
19:41:56 <nirik> we are also going to take pics before/after. In past workplaces it's been nice to be able to look at pictures when in doubt how something is connected and to what.
19:42:50 <nirik> ok, if nothing else, we could call this an early meeting.
19:42:56 <skvidal> hmm
19:42:59 <skvidal> one question
19:43:03 <skvidal> are you allowed to take pictures in there?
19:43:09 <nirik> yeah. we asked.
19:43:15 <CodeBlock> ooh, yay phx2 pics
19:43:15 <CodeBlock> :D
19:43:17 <nirik> and they seemed to think it would be no problem.
19:43:26 <skvidal> cool
19:43:41 <smooge> I will get appropriate booth beefcake clothing to show off the racks
19:44:17 <nirik> ha. parka and touque? (I'm guessing it's cold in there :)
19:44:40 <nirik> anyhow, thanks for coming everyone...
19:44:43 <skvidal> touque?
19:44:49 <skvidal> where from canada are you from
19:44:50 <skvidal> sheesh
19:45:19 <LoKoMurdoK> uufff being late
19:45:21 <LoKoMurdoK> hi
19:45:23 <nirik> :)
19:45:27 <rbergeron> sweet
19:45:41 <nirik> welcome LoKoMurdoK. We were just about to end the meeting... unless you had any items to bring up
19:46:38 <LoKoMurdoK> no relax
19:46:46 <nirik> ok. ;)
19:46:47 <LoKoMurdoK> let's go
19:47:00 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone... back to #fedora-admin and #fedora-noc.
19:47:02 <nirik> #endmeeting
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