Minutes/Summary from today's Fedora Infrastructure Meeting (2011-11-03)

Kevin Fenzi kevin at scrye.com
Thu Nov 3 19:34:35 UTC 2011

#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2011-11-03)

Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at

Meeting summary
* Robot Roll Call  (nirik, 19:00:01)

* New folks introductions and apprentice tasks/feedback  (nirik,

* F16 FINAL FREEZE / tickets  (nirik, 19:06:23)

* Upcoming Tasks/Items  (nirik, 19:11:07)
  * mirorrmanager developers wanted, see mdomsch  (nirik, 19:17:07)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 19:30:13)

Meeting ended at 19:34:02 UTC.

Action Items

Action Items, by person
  * (none)

People Present (lines said)
* nirik (58)
* abadger1999 (15)
* lmacken (13)
* zodbot (11)
* tensov (6)
* mdomsch (5)
* skvidal (4)
* StylusEater (3)
* smooge (0)
* ricky (0)
* codeblock (0)
19:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2011-11-03)
19:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov  3 19:00:01 2011 UTC.  The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:01 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call
19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal codeblock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken
19:00:01 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and apprentice tasks/feedback
19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 codeblock lmacken nirik ricky skvidal smooge
19:00:07 * skvidal is here
19:01:07 <tensov> Hello world
19:01:16 <nirik> hello.
19:01:20 <StylusEater> tensov: hello
19:01:39 <tensov> I'm one of the new guys in today's meeting
19:01:43 <tensov> nice to be here
19:01:49 * lmacken 
19:01:50 <StylusEater> tensov: welcome
19:02:01 <tensov> thanks
19:02:04 <nirik> welcome.
19:02:16 <nirik> what sorts of things are you interested in working on? or still looking around? ;)
19:02:57 <tensov> well, everything related with sysadmins, nothing in particular yet
19:03:39 <nirik> cool. Do say hi over in #fedora-admin/#fedora-noc after the meeting and we can see about getting you in the apprentice group. Or you can just chime in when something interesting comes along in those channels.
19:03:46 <nirik> any other new folks around today?
19:04:13 <tensov> OK, thank you!
19:04:30 * abadger1999 here
19:05:44 * nirik will move on in a minute...
19:06:23 <nirik> #topic F16 FINAL FREEZE / tickets
19:06:35 <nirik> so, we have a number of tickets for release on tuesday.
19:06:44 <nirik> f16 has been given the magic go today. ;)
19:06:58 <nirik> .ticket 2986
19:06:59 <zodbot> nirik: #2986 (F16Final: New website) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2986
19:07:00 <nirik> .ticket 2987
19:07:03 <zodbot> nirik: #2987 (F16Final: verify mirror space for final f16 release) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2987
19:07:04 <nirik> .ticket 2988
19:07:07 <zodbot> nirik: #2988 (F16Final: release day ticket) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2988
19:07:08 <nirik> .ticket 2989
19:07:11 <zodbot> nirik: #2989 (F16Final: verify permissions when content is staged) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2989
19:07:14 <nirik> .ticket 2990
19:07:15 <zodbot> nirik: #2990 (F16Final: notify RHIT about impending release) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2990
19:07:24 <nirik> .ticket 2991
19:07:26 <zodbot> nirik: #2991 (F16Final: modify wiki version template) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2991
19:07:28 <nirik> .ticket 2993
19:07:30 <zodbot> nirik: #2993 (F16Final: move old releases to archive) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2993
19:07:44 <nirik> many of these are for release day.
19:07:52 <nirik> others are for when we have started staging the release.
19:08:39 <nirik> if anyone wants to help with any of these or follow them, please let me know.
19:08:39 <nirik> anything else for release?
19:08:46 <nirik> I do have 2 freeze break requests in... +1's welcome from sysadmin-main or rel-eng folks.
19:09:43 * nirik will move on again in a minute if no shouts.
19:11:07 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
19:11:21 <nirik> we are in freeze until after release.
19:11:27 <mdomsch> yea for freezes
19:12:20 <nirik> we are continuing to send out nags on a schedule for the password/ssh key changes.
19:12:30 <nirik> skvidal: any update on how many people have changed/are left?
19:12:41 <skvidal> nirik: I can generate that number in a sec
19:12:56 <nirik> I'm also going to be out next friday... (11-11-11). Hopefully things should be quiet after the release...
19:14:10 <nirik> Any folks have exciting big plans for after the release freeze? abadger1999 was going to get a fas release done...
19:14:28 <nirik> I'd really really like to migrate hosted and collab to new machines.
19:14:42 <mdomsch> at some point we should upgrade bapp01 to el6
19:14:53 <nirik> yeah.
19:15:12 <mdomsch> and MM still needs a ton of work for TG2/SQLAlchemy, which I haven't had any time to give in months
19:15:13 <abadger1999> fas release post-freeze is looking good.  StylusEater has been working on some polish and no major bugs have been found so far.
19:15:19 <nirik> I'd like to migrate all the apps to el6... but we are still waiting on a few things... community needs ported and a few other packages need dealing with in epel6
19:15:30 <abadger1999> ( https://admin.stg.fedoraproject.org/accounts for anyone that wants to test )
19:15:46 <nirik> hurray for new captcha
19:16:11 <lmacken> re-captcha based?
19:16:21 <mdomsch> with interest from CentOS, AscendOS, gooseproject, and Ubuntu, I could defintely use some extra hands on MM maintenance
19:16:23 <abadger1999> working on an elections release for after the elections (which in turn happen soon after release)
19:16:28 <abadger1999> lmacken: math based.
19:16:35 <skvidal> unchanged ssh keys: 3830
19:16:38 <skvidal> so that number is down
19:17:04 <lmacken> abadger1999: oh... someone filed a bug against bodhi saying that blind people can't give karma because the captcha doesn't offer a vocal solution (like re-captcha does)
19:17:05 <abadger1999> lmacken: re-captcha has no oss server.
19:17:07 <nirik> #info mirorrmanager developers wanted, see mdomsch
19:17:28 <mdomsch> thanks nirik
19:17:52 <nirik> oh, also, I would love to have yubikey's do pass or pin + yubikey (optionally). If anyone wants to work on that, they would have my thanks. ;)
19:18:00 <abadger1999> lmacken: yeah -- maybe we should re-evaluate our no-oss solution requirements... when things are hosted.
19:18:16 <abadger1999> lmacken: (similar to can we/should we use google search in docs)
19:19:36 <lmacken> yeah, might be worth considering
19:19:49 * nirik doesn't really like using non free stuff.
19:20:06 <nirik> but it's a blurry line I suppose.
19:20:37 <lmacken> I'm against using google search for anything
19:21:11 <StylusEater> lmacken: I agree.
19:21:43 * nirik nods
19:22:30 <nirik> any other long term plans?
19:22:41 * nirik would like to keep moving things to el6...
19:23:42 <abadger1999> for el6 app servers what's missing besides community?
19:23:57 <nirik> thats about it that I know of... but I think it needed some epel packages poked...
19:24:14 <abadger1999> ah.
19:24:53 <abadger1999> lmacken, nirik: So... how long until we can have community running on el6?  Should we consider moving community to its own app servers, at least until its ported?
19:25:05 <abadger1999> So we can move the rest of the app servers to rhel6?
19:25:34 <lmacken> abadger1999: it should be good to go, but after you pulled out the latest moksha, it'll probably need another proper release
19:25:36 <nirik> I suppose that could be an option.
19:25:42 <nirik> ah ha. cool.
19:25:48 <lmacken> but we may want a dedicated community server in the future
19:26:01 <lmacken> since we may need some readonly mounts of packages
19:26:10 <lmacken> but that's a discussion for a later date
19:26:27 <abadger1999> lmacken: <nod>  --- if you just get the moksha packages into the infra repo, we should be okay for agpl compliance.
19:26:28 <nirik> is that the only reason for the koji mount on app servers currently? or is that bodhi needing it to complete/
19:26:47 <lmacken> nirik: bodhi on app* doesn't need /mnt/koji for anything
19:26:52 <lmacken> abadger1999: ok, cool
19:27:00 <abadger1999> We just can't have it where the srpms aren't in one of the places we say the users can get the exact source we're deploying.
19:27:12 <lmacken> abadger1999: I'll try and get it up in and running in staging this week
19:27:17 <abadger1999> Cool.
19:28:05 <nirik> lmacken: so, we could drop that mount today? or community uses it?
19:28:17 <lmacken> nirik: should be safe to drop
19:28:36 <nirik> hurray.
19:28:43 * nirik makes a note for after the freeze.
19:29:14 <nirik> that may or may not let us use remote app servers too... (they might be too slow tho)
19:30:13 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:30:18 <nirik> so, any items for open floor?
19:32:34 * nirik listens to crickets.
19:32:42 <nirik> ok, will close out in a minute if nothing else.
19:33:57 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone!
19:34:02 <nirik> #endmeeting
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