Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-07-05)

[Kevin Fenzi]

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#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-07-05)
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Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:52 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-05/infrastructure.2012-07-05-18.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* Good morning Fedora  (nirik, 18:00:52)

* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.  (nirik, 18:02:52)

* Applications status / discussion  (nirik, 18:08:25)

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Infrastructure_Security_2012
  (nirik, 18:22:04)
  * ACTION: nirik to continue to work out plan and scheduling and budget
    for a fad.  (nirik, 18:34:00)

* Upcoming Tasks/Items  (nirik, 18:35:33)
  * 2012-06-26 Fedora 15 end of life.  (nirik, 18:35:33)
  * 2012-07-05 remove people with pkgdb bugzilla issues.  (nirik,
    18:35:33)
  * 2012-07-05 nag fi-apprentices  (nirik, 18:35:33)
  * 2012-07-12 drop inactive apprentices.  (nirik, 18:35:33)
  * 2012-08-07 to 2012-08-21 F18 Alpha Freeze  (nirik, 18:35:36)
  * 2012-08-21 F18 Alpha release.  (nirik, 18:35:38)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 18:42:23)
  * need to test out new python-bugzilla with all our apps.  (nirik,
    18:58:00)
  * ACTION: lmacken to work on hash randomization for apps next week in
    staging.  (nirik, 19:02:33)

Meeting ended at 19:10:21 UTC.




Action Items
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* nirik to continue to work out plan and scheduling and budget for a
  fad.
* lmacken to work on hash randomization for apps next week in staging.




Action Items, by person
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* lmacken
  * lmacken to work on hash randomization for apps next week in staging.
* nirik
  * nirik to continue to work out plan and scheduling and budget for a
    fad.
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (101)
* skvidal (88)
* lmacken (27)
* abadger1999 (26)
* relrod (16)
* threebean (14)
* dgilmore (12)
* smooge (7)
* sdrfed17 (7)
* ianweller (5)
* zodbot (4)
* jaysonr (3)
* ingm4r (2)
* samkottler (2)
* misc (1)
* fchiulli (1)
* ricky (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* CodeBlock (0)
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18:00:52 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-07-05)
18:00:52 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul  5 18:00:52 2012 UTC.  The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:00:52 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
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18:00:52 <nirik> #topic Good morning Fedora
18:00:52 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean
18:00:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean
18:00:57 * skvidal is here
18:00:59 * abadger1999 here
18:01:08 * relrod is here
18:01:11 <sdrfed17> sdrfed17 is here
18:01:36 * ingm4r is
18:01:48 <dgilmore> hey
18:02:07 * fchiulli is in the rafters.
18:02:47 <nirik> ok, cool... lets go ahead and dive on in then.
18:02:52 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
18:03:02 <nirik> If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices would like to ask general questions, they can do so now. Anyone?
18:03:33 <sdrfed17> any apprentice tasks to undertake
18:03:35 <sdrfed17> ?
18:04:28 <nirik> sdrfed17: we have a list of easyfix tickets... http://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/
18:04:34 <nirik> look down to fedora-infrastructure.
18:04:48 <nirik> I've been gone the last week or so, but will try and file some more.
18:05:07 <nirik> If you have any questions on any of them, do ask in #fedora-admin and someone will take a look.
18:05:26 <sdrfed17> ok thanks nirik
18:05:31 <sdrfed17> i will take a look
18:05:53 <nirik> cool. Are you more interested in sysadmin type tasks? or application development/programming? or both?
18:06:11 <sdrfed17> sysadmin
18:06:15 * threebean shows up late
18:06:20 <ingm4r> I would like some new sysadmin-tasks,too
18:06:39 <nirik> ok cool.
18:07:05 <nirik> If either of you would like to be added to the apprentice group (if you aren't already) we can do so after the meeting over in #fedora-admin. :)
18:07:32 <sdrfed17> no i am already in the apprentice group and able to access bastion host
18:07:53 <nirik> great. (Thought so, but my memory might be hazy after vacation. ;)
18:08:25 <nirik> ok, moving along then...
18:08:25 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
18:08:42 * ianweller is here, kinda
18:08:46 <nirik> any new applications news this last week? threebean / abadger1999 / lmacken / CodeBlock / pingou / ianweller
18:09:09 <abadger1999> ianweller has been rewriting elections as a flask application
18:09:13 <ianweller> i sent my elections status to the list
18:09:29 <abadger1999> ianweller: I think it's got good potential
18:09:32 <nirik> yeah. I need to read again and reply to abadger1999's post on applications and ianweller's election post.
18:09:38 <abadger1999> <nod>
18:09:55 <abadger1999> My post on applications and web frameworks has gone unanswered but RH Summit was last week.
18:09:58 <ianweller> i am going to back out on the election admins support for this release
18:10:09 <ianweller> and revert to the elections fas group
18:10:12 <abadger1999> lmacken, threebean: Would be good if you weighed in on that post.
18:10:16 <relrod> Still need to test the fedorahosted web app, but it's ready for testing. Still planning on testing it on hosted01 before we switch over to 01/02. Since it's a semi-real (if a bit out of date because it probably hasn't been rsynced in a while) hosted environment.
18:10:28 <ianweller> because the implementation really needs some discussion
18:10:30 <nirik> abadger1999: so the short summary was: we have a lot of frameworks, can we consolidate some?
18:10:36 <skvidal> nirik: and
18:10:41 <skvidal> "let's pick a 'big app framework
18:10:42 <skvidal> '
18:10:47 <skvidal> and a 'small app framework'
18:10:49 <skvidal> "
18:10:54 <nirik> yeah.
18:10:55 <abadger1999> <nod>
18:11:05 <skvidal> ie: moksha/tg/$flavor_of_the_week for $bigapp
18:11:13 <skvidal> and flask for $smallapp
18:11:17 <nirik> sounds like people are leaning toward: flask -> small app, pyrimid -> big app?
18:11:17 <skvidal> or something along those lines
18:11:23 <nirik> yeah.
18:11:42 <abadger1999> nirik: I think so... but we still have a lot of TG2 apps that seem to be in the pipeline.
18:11:47 <threebean> abadger1999: will do
18:11:47 <abadger1999> So I'm not 100% sure of that.
18:11:50 <skvidal> abadger1999: nod
18:11:59 <abadger1999> threebean and lmacken would know that story better.
18:11:59 <skvidal> abadger1999: and that is, in fact, the crux of the issue
18:12:00 <nirik> relrod: I am going to resync again too... so it should be pretty up to date.
18:12:07 <skvidal> abadger1999: the new-app-platform moving target
18:12:13 <abadger1999> yep.
18:12:24 <abadger1999> Especially as I look at porting the TG1 apps.
18:13:05 <relrod> we also have lmacken's openhw2012 app deployed to a temporary box that skvidal set up. The repo for the app code is: https://github.com/lmacken/fedora-openhw2012 - we just need to add the proxy stuff but if you want to test it, -L via lockbox and go to /openhw2012
18:13:15 <relrod> that's all the app news I have I think
18:13:28 <skvidal> That box has a deadline, too
18:13:37 <skvidal> after the end of july
18:13:40 <skvidal> we should be able to kill it
18:13:48 <skvidal> I've set a calendar reminder for myself for august 5th
18:13:49 <nirik> ok.
18:13:56 <threebean> I've got two open infra tickets for fedmsg stuff -- one for websockets proxying, another for a fedmsg CA.  No rush, just remembering.
18:13:59 <skvidal> if the box ain't gone by then - I go bug mo and spot and lmacken until it is
18:14:07 <misc> skvidal: set a cron job to make it explode :)
18:14:17 <skvidal> threebean: I've been noodling on the CA thing
18:14:26 <nirik> threebean: yeah, I hope to get to those sometime too. ;)
18:14:28 <jaysonr> hi all - sorry i'm late
18:14:44 <threebean> :)
18:15:00 <abadger1999> threebean: ah yeah -- the websockets thing seems like it could be explained some.
18:15:08 <nirik> threebean: how is the bus looking in staging? I assume those two tickets need fixing before we look at when we can move to prod?
18:15:13 <abadger1999> since it's a relatively new thing
18:15:41 <abadger1999> that we've never deployed before.
18:15:55 <threebean> nirik: Here's a table of the stg status - https://github.com/ralphbean/fedmsg/blob/develop/doc/status.rst
18:16:50 <threebean> abadger1999: agreed.  so websockets is a natural fit for doing push-based notifications to a web client.  we used to dabble with Orbited as a TCP proxy, but websockets seems to have out-moded it.
18:16:53 <nirik> threebean: ok, so is the thought to get it all working in stg and push to prod at once? or just get a good bunch done, enable those in prod and work on the others as time permits?
18:17:20 <threebean> nirik: I'd originally thought: "get it all working in stg first" but I'm leaning towards a move to production sooner.
18:17:21 <skvidal> threebean: so - websockets, unless I misunderstand is going to need some intriguing access to get to the server side from outside of phx2
18:17:31 <skvidal> threebean: is it possible we can use websockets tunneld via vpn?
18:17:41 <threebean> nirik: reason being that my modules-staging dir is getting unwieldly and I'd like to slim it down before growing it too much more.
18:17:44 <skvidal> threebean: i guess - I am unclear what is going to be connecting to the websocket server
18:18:16 <skvidal> threebean: sorry for the pile-on of questions
18:18:25 <nirik> threebean: yeah, I think it makes sense to get the ones done setup and working in prod and then do another stg batch.
18:18:52 <threebean> skvidal: (np) -- the client will be a browser, most of which support native websockets-on-the-client these days.
18:19:18 <skvidal> threebean: so - an END user needs to have a full-duplex connection to this service?
18:19:53 <threebean> well, for the service I have in mind, they only *need* the server->client stream.
18:19:58 <skvidal> threebean: how well does that cope with things like loadbalancers?
18:20:22 <threebean> *should* be fine, although I've no experience with it in practice.
18:21:07 <nirik> we can work on getting that working and sorted out of band?
18:21:14 <skvidal> sure
18:21:20 <threebean> yeah :)
18:21:22 <nirik> any other apps news?
18:21:59 <nirik> ok, moving along
18:22:04 <nirik> #topic https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Infrastructure_Security_2012
18:22:22 <nirik> I need to gather more info and then ping rbergeron when she's back and see what kind of budget we can get.
18:22:53 <skvidal> have we settled on a _when_?
18:23:07 <nirik> if anyone interested in attending could add themselves to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Infrastructure_Security_2012/attendees that would be great.
18:23:11 <nirik> skvidal: nope...
18:23:28 <abadger1999> i think I mentioned this last meeting when you weren't here -- does it make sense to decide who needs to attend, who we want to attend, and then decide where it makes sense to have it?
18:23:30 * dgilmore would prefer september or november
18:23:41 * dgilmore really wants to be there
18:23:50 <skvidal> abadger1999: sure
18:23:55 <dgilmore> but im going to australia for 6 week in just over 2 weeks
18:24:04 <dgilmore> and ill be travelling most of october
18:24:13 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah, it could.
18:24:14 * relrod would prefer before end of august because of the semester starting :/
18:25:02 <nirik> relrod: I think thats going to be too soon to have logistics sorted... also we will be in alpha freeze at the beginning of aug...
18:25:08 <abadger1999> skvidal: I think you have the best overview of who's been working on what... do you want to make up the short list of must-have people?
18:25:23 <skvidal> umm - sure?
18:25:34 <abadger1999> heh, not to put you on the spot :-)
18:25:45 <relrod> nirik: :(
18:25:56 <skvidal> we need captain fas, captain infra, capt various-kinds-of-auth
18:26:01 <abadger1999> I could come up with a list too... but I'm not sure if people like mricon are must-haves or would-like-to-haves
18:26:03 <nirik> relrod: do you have a fall break or the like?
18:26:18 <skvidal> abadger1999: I think mricon would be happy to come by NC for a while ;)
18:26:29 <skvidal> but I doubt he is a MUST have
18:26:36 * relrod pulls up the college calendar
18:27:06 <skvidal> also - if anyone is thinking of doing this in the first week of october - you have another thing coming :)
18:27:12 <dgilmore> not sure im a must have but would like to work on ca bits
18:27:18 <dgilmore> as well as a few others
18:27:30 <dgilmore> auth stuff etc
18:28:03 <relrod> nirik: yeah that could work actually I think
18:28:26 <dgilmore> skvidal: im pretty much out all of october
18:28:44 <nirik> I think primary we need: fas developers, sysadmin folks who can work on the setup part, possibly packaging if we still need packages for pam modules/etc.
18:29:08 <smooge> I can make this easy.. While I would love to attend.. I think my usefulness would be small... so you can skip me in the scheduling unless you find a reason I have to be there :)
18:29:31 <skvidal> smooge: I thought you were captain various-kinds-of-auth
18:29:38 <nirik> if dgilmore could make it we could sort out sign* security/management processes, which would be a good secondary goal.
18:29:39 <skvidal> oh well
18:29:47 <smooge> well I can be :)
18:30:09 <smooge> skvidal, I just wanted to make your job of many body program as easy as possible
18:30:26 * skvidal wonders how he got saddled with this
18:30:30 * skvidal glowers at abadger1999
18:30:42 <abadger1999> :-)
18:31:12 <dgilmore> nirik: id like to talk with smart people about our ca setup
18:31:44 <abadger1999> skvidal: You could put on the wiki [needed roles] Captain FAS, Captain pam, [...] Captain Reynolds, and then make sure we have someone from each.
18:31:45 <nirik> ok, so lets work on: a short list of must have folks, and nice to have folks... and gather more info?
18:31:58 <skvidal> abadger1999: guess who is captain fas? :)
18:32:04 <skvidal> abadger1999: captain tightpants is more like it
18:32:20 <nirik> dgilmore: for koji?
18:32:29 <skvidal> dgilmore: I'd like to discuss the ca stuff with you, actually.
18:32:32 <dgilmore> nirik: yeah
18:32:52 <abadger1999> nirik: yeah, we can probably come up with our list of people concurrent with asking rbergeron about budget/template of what an organizer needs to know/turn in to make it work.
18:33:40 <nirik> yep
18:34:00 <nirik> #action nirik to continue to work out plan and scheduling and budget for a fad.
18:34:13 <dgilmore> skvidal: anytime
18:34:17 <skvidal> dgilmore: ok
18:35:06 <nirik> ok, moving on then? or anything else we should discuss on fad?
18:35:33 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
18:35:33 <nirik> #info 2012-06-26 Fedora 15 end of life.
18:35:33 <nirik> #info 2012-07-05 remove people with pkgdb bugzilla issues.
18:35:33 <nirik> #info 2012-07-05 nag fi-apprentices
18:35:33 <nirik> #info 2012-07-12 drop inactive apprentices.
18:35:36 <nirik> #info 2012-08-07 to 2012-08-21 F18 Alpha Freeze
18:35:38 <nirik> #info 2012-08-21 F18 Alpha release.
18:35:50 <nirik> I had f15 eol on there still because I didn't see the announcement.
18:35:56 <nirik> I guess it's waiting on rbergeron being back
18:36:08 <nirik> anything else folks would like to schedule or note?
18:36:14 <nirik> I have some things:
18:36:26 <nirik> a) 6.3 updates. Next week?
18:36:43 <skvidal> sure - or we can apply them all tomorrow
18:36:46 <nirik> b) hosted03 -> hosted-lists01 migration? where were we on that?
18:36:46 <skvidal> what could go wrong?
18:36:58 <skvidal> nirik: have we done enough speed tests?
18:36:59 <nirik> heh.
18:37:18 <nirik> c) hosted03 -> hosted01/02 migration redux
18:37:42 <skvidal> smooge: were you working on the hosted lists thing?
18:37:44 <smooge> I am doing mailing list transitions next week. 11 will be EPEL -> fedoraprojects. 12 I hope to have hosted -> lists.hosted
18:37:54 <skvidal> cool
18:38:27 <nirik> smooge: cool. You need me to file outage tickets/announce those? or you got it? any particular times?
18:38:54 <smooge> I am waiting on some people in RHIT to tell me when they want to go to PHX2. If I don't have it by Monday.. Kevin and I will come up with a date and I will go
18:39:01 <nirik> skvidal: on c) it looked like it was reasonably ok performance wise for me with nfs... but If you have some more heavy hitting you could do against it, that would be great!
18:39:14 <smooge> nirik, I will be putting in the tickets tomorrow.
18:39:15 <skvidal> I will see if I can get to it
18:39:21 <skvidal> nirik: what's your timeline for making that switch, again
18:39:53 <nirik> if we could do it at least a week or so before alpha freeze that would be nice...
18:40:07 <nirik> but I guess hosted isn't frozen anyhow in alpha/beta...
18:40:22 <nirik> smooge: sounds good.
18:41:26 <nirik> ok, anything else upcoming?
18:42:23 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:42:28 <nirik> anything for open floor?
18:42:40 * relrod will set up the fedorahosted app on hosted01 this weekend for people to play with next week
18:42:55 <samkottler> I got pulled out into a meeting earlier, but I'm interested in becoming an infra apprentice
18:43:46 <skvidal> relrod: how weil the hosted app deal with hosted01/hosted02 split?
18:44:06 <jaysonr> i was late getting here, but smooge helped fisnish getting me set up as an apprentice last meeting - not sure where to start helping out.
18:44:16 <skvidal> relrod: also - for maybe sometime in the future - if we end up sharding out projects to various servers - any idea on amount of modification necessary to make that fly?
18:44:29 <relrod> skvidal: shouldn't matter at all, as long as the repo dirs (/git, /hg, etc, etc) remain in sync.
18:44:41 <skvidal> relrod: and if they don't?
18:44:43 <nirik> samkottler / jaysonr: we can help point you the right way in #fedora-admin after the meeting. ;)
18:44:53 <samkottler> nirik: great, thank you :)
18:44:54 <skvidal> relrod: ie: if we split them so that we only have the bits necessary on a set of hosts?
18:45:12 <jaysonr> nirik: thanks
18:45:14 <relrod> skvidal: Well it'd be the same as if you followed the (current) SOP.
18:45:28 <skvidal> ok
18:46:58 <nirik> related to that...
18:47:00 <relrod> skvidal: as for sharding out to different servers, the CLI doesn't care where it's run. Run it on whatever server you want, and it'll set up the project on that server. We could put in sanity checks ("this project should really be processed on hosted123 not hosted456, are you sure you know what you're doing? Y/n")
18:47:21 <skvidal> relrod: well the goal I'd have is patching it into dns
18:47:25 <skvidal> so when you make project foo
18:47:44 <skvidal> it creates a dns entry foo.fedorahosted.org and points that to a specific server (or a ocuple of servers, depending)
18:47:48 <nirik> we may be setting up a hosted-agilo01 or something... I can't get the agilo trac plugin to play nice with others. we have 2 groups that really want to use it.
18:48:09 <skvidal> nirik: so - that's how we can start it
18:48:12 <nirik> so, this would be one way to test that... ie, if you want a agilo instance, it has to setup on that hose.
18:48:14 <nirik> host.
18:48:17 <skvidal> we can move to foo.fedorahosted.org
18:48:26 <skvidal> for those folks who want to use agilo
18:48:29 <relrod> skvidal: well that might be interesting (because it'll have to commit to the dns repo to do that, right?)
18:48:30 <skvidal> and just point them over to there
18:48:37 <skvidal> nirik: same - backend gluster FS, of course
18:48:43 <skvidal> relrod: indeed
18:49:01 <skvidal> we have a, currently unused, user setup to do things like that
18:49:27 <skvidal> brb
18:49:45 * nirik nods.
18:49:47 * lmacken rolls in super late
18:49:55 <nirik> ok, we can look at testing this out with the agilo stuff...
18:50:06 <nirik> hey lmacken. Any app news to note this week?
18:50:25 <relrod> skvidal: so perhaps we write a wrapper script for lockbox that: 1) makes the dns commit, 2) uses ansible/func/whatever to `fedorahosted -p 123` (where 123 is the request ID) on a given hostedXX box.
18:50:28 <lmacken> nirik: openhw2012 work, thanks to skvidal, relrod, and mizmo for their help.
18:50:56 <skvidal> relrod: maybe - more thoughts, i suspect
18:51:00 <lmacken> nothing else this week other than that. I'll have that app done this week.
18:51:02 <skvidal> relrod: but out of band from this meeting
18:51:07 <nirik> lmacken: cool.
18:51:14 <relrod> skvidal: sounds good
18:51:58 <nirik> lmacken: did we want to announce packager/tagger? or was there still some polishing up happening there?
18:52:38 <lmacken> nirik: I think we're pretty much ready... I was worried about a few bugs last week, but none are really blockers as the app just mostly works.
18:52:40 <relrod> and yes, it recognizes agilo needing to be processed on a box with 'agilo' in the hostname already. https://github.com/CodeBlock/fedorahosted/blob/master/bin/fedorahosted#L184
18:53:06 <nirik> did we solve/fix the running out of space issue ?
18:53:08 <threebean> nirik: I've got a CLI tool for the packages app in review now.  It'll be a bit before it makes it into stable though.
18:53:09 <abadger1999> Did we get the disk full problem sorted out?
18:53:11 <lmacken> nirik: we also need to get our inode monitoring setup on those boxes, as we had a backed up cronjob that caused another explosion recently
18:53:17 <threebean> nirik: shouldn't block an announcement, though.
18:53:39 <nirik> huh. I thought I had setup nagios to monitor that...
18:53:39 <nirik> I can doublecheck
18:53:44 <lmacken> for some reason the 'yum makecache' cron job for fedora packages started flipping out for some unknown reason, and prevented the tagger beaker cleanup script from running.
18:54:04 <abadger1999> are they the same job or separate jobs?
18:54:09 <lmacken> different...
18:54:11 <skvidal> lmacken: the yum makecahce script that I saw was segfaulting
18:54:22 <skvidal> lmacken: which means something is VERY wrong further down than yum
18:54:26 <lmacken> can we tweak cron to prevent one from blocking another?
18:54:32 <lmacken> skvidal: yeah, it needs a good hard look
18:55:00 <lmacken> skvidal: that's J5 code that needs some review... it definitely worked fine on community01.dev
18:55:30 <skvidal> I do not know how you make that code segfault w/o maybe replacing various libraries that python calls
18:55:39 <nirik> I've seen some sporadic timeouts on the bugs pages too... but not enough pattern to really nail down.
18:55:48 <skvidal> the makecache code is..... not very complicated
18:55:57 <lmacken> nirik: yup, the bugs page is hurting after the new bugzilla upgrade... since we can't do multicalls anymore
18:56:09 <abadger1999> nirik: Oh -about bugzilla -- do we need to coordinate with red hat in order to test the python-bugzilla update?
18:56:11 <lmacken> I'll give the bugs page another look next week, as I think I can improve some of those queries
18:56:38 <nirik> lmacken: you might ask pingou and/or tibbs to look at your queries... they have poked at the python bugzilla stuff a lot recently....
18:57:07 <lmacken> nirik: cool
18:57:09 <nirik> abadger1999: good point. I think we can test it... we just need to see that it doesn't cause a ton of queries next to the old one.
18:57:27 <abadger1999> <nod>
18:57:46 <nirik> lmacken: if packages could also have a feature to show all bugs in one page that would be nice for me at least too. ;) Thats what I used the pkgdb one to list...
18:57:52 <lmacken> here is the bugzilla
18:57:59 <lmacken> multicall issue we were hitting: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824241
18:58:00 <nirik> #info need to test out new python-bugzilla with all our apps.
18:58:36 <lmacken> and new Python
18:58:38 <nirik> lmacken: ok
18:59:11 <nirik> ok, anyone have anything more? or shall we call it a meeting?
18:59:21 <lmacken> we updated python recently, it caused explosions, and we reverted it. have we made any more progress since?
19:00:08 * lmacken seems to recall us hitting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750555#c76
19:00:24 <nirik> I didn't recall reverting it... I thought we just restarted things and they started working.
19:00:28 <nirik> skvidal: you recall?
19:00:32 * skvidal looks up
19:00:44 <skvidal> the python update
19:00:49 <skvidal> I don't think we reverted it, did we?
19:00:55 <skvidal> I thought we restarted the things it broke
19:01:07 <lmacken> oh, excellent. in that case, I'll look into setting up hash randomization for our apps in staging next week.
19:01:07 <skvidal> yah we did
19:01:13 <skvidal> the issue was os vs posix
19:01:24 <skvidal> for which call was it.
19:01:30 <lmacken> cool
19:01:34 <skvidal> the module moved
19:01:36 <skvidal> I remember this
19:02:17 <nirik> lmacken: great.
19:02:27 <skvidal> one sec - finding the bug to confirm
19:02:33 <nirik> #action lmacken to work on hash randomization for apps next week in staging.
19:02:33 <lmacken> skvidal: I just posed it earlier
19:02:41 <lmacken> **posted
19:02:59 <skvidal> lmacken: that was for f16
19:03:27 <lmacken> and RHEL
19:03:27 <skvidal> I was looking at the item for el6 that we ran into
19:03:45 <skvidal> ok
19:04:52 <nirik> lmacken: should we schedule a bodhi 2.0 meetup? figure out status and such?
19:05:03 <skvidal> nod - moved os.random to posix
19:05:49 <lmacken> nirik: yeah, sounds good to me. let's touch base next week and schedule something.
19:05:50 <skvidal> and the conversation from then in #fedora-noc said
19:05:58 <skvidal> I restarted a bunch of apps to cope with the change
19:06:04 <skvidal> but I left the python update in place
19:06:12 * skvidal is just making sure it is what I thought it was :)
19:06:28 <nirik> lmacken: ok. I think if we actually schedule something we will make progress. ;) It's easy to keep putting off...
19:07:20 <lmacken> nirik: yeah, true :) the porting has been going well, and I'm pretty much at the point now where I'm going through years worth of feature requests and figuring out how to implement/integrate. But yeah, we should meet and discuss them soon.
19:08:05 * lmacken will sync up the bodhi2 status on the wiki & trac next week and plan a meeting to review & prioritize
19:08:07 <nirik> lmacken: yeah. Would be a great time to make sure people are on the same page/features make sense to implement, etc.
19:08:43 <nirik> I did see till was attaching a bunch of patches... might also be time to do a 1.x roll up if those patches are worth pushing out before 2.0 is done.
19:09:10 <lmacken> nirik: yup, definitely.
19:09:25 <nirik> ok, cool...
19:09:32 <nirik> if nothing else, will close out in a minute.
19:09:52 <smooge> nothing from me
19:10:18 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone!
19:10:21 <skvidal> indeed
19:10:21 <nirik> #endmeeting
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