Migrating to our own bugzilla instance.

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

On 09/18/2013 04:14 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johannbg at gmail.com) said:
>> On 09/18/2013 01:24 PM, Jeff Sheltren wrote:
>>> I'm totally on board with moving away from Bugzilla if there are
>>> serious issues with using it.  However, EPEL is a Fedora SIG, not
>>> something run by RHEL. And I would totally expect it to be
>>> supported by the Fedora Project.
>> All the packages already exist and are available in Fedora
> Not entirely, there are some packages that are only in EPEL. Aside from
> that...
>
>> Epel has nothing to do with Fedora absolutely nothing.
> If I'm understanding you, you're claiming it *should* have nothing to do
> with Fedora.  However, it clearly does currently - it was started as a
> Fedora project in 2007.  It uses the Fedora infrastructure *intentionally*
> as an easy way to share resources, share packaging information, share
> accounts for packagers, share certain policies, etc.

I can see how and why it had been started as Fedora project for and at 
the convenience of RH  ( and it's clones ) as opposed to actually get 
the EPEL maintainers to maintain that same component for a longer period 
of time in Fedora as an part of an LTS release.

>
> Changing this state and severing the relationship would seem to imply 1)
> telling the EPEL community they're no longer welcome 2) describing how they
> could do something better by separating.  I've not seen a compelling
> argument for #2 yet, nor a reason the currently relationship is holding back
> progress in a way that would require the drastic measures of #1.

Given that you could not see a compelling argument changing the command 
prompt to long hostname for the benefit of administrators or if as you 
expressed it would take up to much rel-estate space and then propose to 
do the opposite and remove the short hostname for it, which would have 
in turn removed the confusing part that the short hostnames are and in 
turn forced administrators to run command to realise which host they are 
working  ( which they have to do anyway with regards to short hostnames 
)  I can understand why that you dont see a compallance in the argument 
I'm making but that wont change the fact that the spec file are being 
cluttered for epel or rhel compatibility, something those maintainers 
should be keep in a separated branch away from Fedora.

Btw it makes perfect sense that EPEL and RHEL share the same bugzilla 
instance but not Fedora.

JBG