Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2012-02-02)

Kevin Fenzi kevin at
Thu Feb 2 17:31:31 UTC 2012

#fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2012-02-02)

Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at

Meeting summary
* init process  (nirik, 17:00:01)

* Week in review  (nirik, 17:04:44)
  * LINK:
    (nirik, 17:04:44)

* Tickets  (nirik, 17:06:52)
  * LINK:   (nirik,
  * LINK:   (nirik,

* more formal processes  (nirik, 17:16:03)
  * please provide feedback on latest voting proposal on list. Will look
    at adopting next week.  (nirik, 17:23:50)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 17:27:37)

Meeting ended at 17:30:59 UTC.

Action Items

Action Items, by person
  * (none)

People Present (lines said)
* nirik (64)
* Sonar_Guy (14)
* Khaytsus (10)
* Sonar_Gal (10)
* Southern_Gentlem (6)
* N3LRX (5)
* zodbot (5)
* jsmith (3)
* Discordian (2)
* meta-physicist (1)
17:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-02-02)
17:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Feb  2 17:00:01 2012 UTC.  The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at
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17:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
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17:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process
17:00:07 * N3LRX grabs a bagel some with bacon, egg and cheese and plops down in the comfy chair.
17:00:39 * jsmith lurks while he catches up on other tasks
17:01:00 * Sonar_Guy 
17:02:02 * nirik waits for more folks to drift in. eats bacon.
17:02:08 * Sonar_Gal 
17:02:19 * meta-physicist 
17:03:49 <nirik> will start in another minute or so.
17:04:41 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and start in...
17:04:44 <nirik> #topic Week in review
17:04:44 <nirik>
17:04:52 <nirik> pretty normal week...
17:05:08 <nirik> anyone have anything they would care to note from this week?
17:05:28 <jsmith> First week in quite some time that I didn't receive any kind of complaint about IRC
17:05:36 <Sonar_Guy> lol
17:05:42 <jsmith> (I know that's a sad commentary, but it's the truth)
17:05:55 <nirik> well, thats... good?
17:06:04 * Southern_Gentlem 
17:06:05 <Sonar_Guy> Yup, I would say it is a good thing!
17:06:09 <nirik> hope it keeps up. ;)
17:06:15 <Khaytsus> Too busy arguing about useless forks
17:06:45 <nirik> what about spoons? and sporks? ;)
17:06:50 <nirik> anyhow...
17:06:52 <nirik> #topic Tickets
17:06:52 <nirik>
17:07:10 <nirik> we have several tickets.
17:07:17 <Khaytsus> I always wanted a nice titanium spork
17:07:26 <nirik> .title
17:07:27 <zodbot> nirik: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
17:07:37 * nirik should look into that.
17:07:43 <nirik> anyhow this is a complaint about another user.
17:08:30 <nirik> they have in fact not been in channel since around this time.
17:08:34 <N3LRX> The user left shortly after EvilBob posted the link to my complaint and has not been back since. Perhaps it was the only link he read but it worked to get rid of him. I just wanted it documented to make an example of the user.
17:08:35 <Southern_Gentlem> it will learn or go away
17:08:52 <nirik> they were difficult, but I think learning...
17:08:59 <Khaytsus> Who hasn't been around in a aweek
17:09:05 <Southern_Gentlem> nirik,  no they wasnt
17:09:26 <nirik> I disagree. It was a slow road I know, but they did seem to be getting better.
17:09:30 <nirik> IMHO
17:09:38 <Southern_Gentlem> they wanted to have a bastardized install and then wanted us to fix his problems
17:09:51 <nirik> anyhow, proposal: close with thanks for the feedback and handle the user as our guidelines if they come back.
17:09:57 <Khaytsus> Close with "did not violate channel policies"
17:10:28 <nirik> well, they did a few times and were quieted.
17:10:36 <Sonar_Guy> nirik: +1
17:10:49 <Khaytsus> Ah, okay, sorry.  A quick grep of logs didn't notice that
17:11:41 <nirik> ok, next ticket? or anything more on this one?
17:11:48 <Southern_Gentlem> next
17:11:51 <Sonar_Gal> no this one is good
17:11:53 <Sonar_Gal> next
17:12:06 <nirik> .title
17:12:07 <zodbot> nirik: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
17:12:11 * nirik sighs.
17:12:18 <nirik> anyhow, this is to fix our template. ;)
17:12:27 <nirik> I can do that after the meeting. Not sure why it got broken.
17:12:30 <Khaytsus> Can we get to 98 so I can laugh?
17:12:50 <nirik> getting there.
17:12:52 <nirik>
17:12:58 <nirik> this is kudos for affix. ;)
17:13:02 <nirik> good work affix
17:13:12 <Khaytsus> +1 affix
17:13:16 <Sonar_Gal> affix, Good Job
17:13:46 <nirik> lastly we have:
17:13:59 <nirik> this is kudos for... 'f16 users' ?
17:14:05 <nirik> anyhow, they seem to be happy.
17:14:10 <Southern_Gentlem> for the channel
17:14:15 <Sonar_Gal> support for the channel
17:14:19 <Khaytsus> That one is whipping my ass
17:14:25 <Khaytsus> But I digress..
17:14:53 <nirik> cool... so kudos for everyone. ;)
17:15:04 <Khaytsus> Free beer at nirik's place
17:15:09 <Sonar_Guy> Yay, somebody likes the channel!!
17:15:11 <nirik> :)
17:15:14 <Sonar_Gal> :D
17:15:23 <nirik> would someone like to close out tickets this week?
17:16:00 <nirik> if not I can do it...
17:16:03 <nirik> #topic more formal processes
17:16:16 <nirik> So, I posted another iteration of a voting policy to the list last week...
17:16:34 <nirik> anyone have thoughts/counterproposals/rotten fruit?
17:16:47 <N3LRX> I like the way the policy is forming. I think we're headed in the right direction.
17:16:51 <Sonar_Gal> I will close out the tickets
17:17:00 <Sonar_Guy> nirik: I think #3 is pretty good!  I would give it a +1
17:17:19 <nirik> Sonar_Gal: thanks!
17:18:43 <nirik> yeah, I think it's a start.
17:18:57 <Sonar_Gal> nirik, It's a start and #3 is pretty good
17:19:26 <nirik> yeah, I'd be happy if we adopted #3 and then moved on from there... should we give it another week? or ?
17:19:37 <Sonar_Guy> nirik: it gives us a framework to build upon
17:19:43 <Sonar_Guy> as needed
17:19:57 <nirik> yeah
17:20:27 <Sonar_Guy> I say we put it to a vote and adopt it if accepted next week
17:20:32 <Sonar_Gal> I would give it another week as not many are here today
17:20:41 <nirik> yeah.
17:20:52 <nirik> ok. sounds good.
17:21:10 <Sonar_Guy> nirik: or put it to a vote on the list
17:22:02 <nirik> thats fine with me too... shall I post to that effect? or would someone else like to?
17:22:58 <Sonar_Guy> nirik: I think you put it in the meeting minutes and you post those.  Should that not be good enough?
17:23:21 <nirik> well, it might be good to draw attention to... but yeah
17:23:50 <nirik> #info please provide feedback on latest voting proposal on list. Will look at adopting next week.
17:23:56 <nirik> ok, anything more on this?
17:24:01 <N3LRX> My only complaint would be item c it does make it a closed 'good ol boy network' I would like to see that opened up to anyone can nominate including self nomination..
17:24:41 <N3LRX> then the voting members can vote on the nominations posted.
17:24:57 <nirik> I guess I don't care much on that point... except that I suspect we might get people who nominate that aren't really involved or want to just disrupt... but they could be voted down.
17:25:00 <Sonar_Guy> N3LRX: Propose that on the list. . .  See where it goes form there
17:25:21 * Discordian apologises
17:26:00 <Discordian> sorry to be late
17:26:33 <nirik> no worries.
17:27:29 <nirik> N3LRX: yeah, propose that change... I don't think it would be too big a deal.
17:27:37 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
17:27:43 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor?
17:28:11 <Sonar_Guy> N3LRX: propose that change as Proposal #4 and I will +1 it
17:28:16 <Sonar_Guy> Not I!
17:29:16 <Sonar_Gal> Nope been a quiet week
17:29:56 <nirik> lets hope we keep going that way for a while. :)
17:30:04 * nirik will close the meeting in a minute if nothing comes up
17:30:56 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone!
17:30:59 <nirik> #endmeeting
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