[irc-support-sig] #156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
Clive Hills
discordianuk at gmail.com
Thu Aug 22 03:15:14 UTC 2013
I attempted to hold a discussion with the OP. He kept repeating again and
again the same statements as if repetition would suddenly make them more
true. My position as I stated is that Fedora Legal counsel's advice is
people are free to help those in embargoed nations with Fedora support
issues as per the dictates of their conscience. Clearly it would be illegal
to supply them with such embargoed software and there would be penalties
for that but that isn't the issue.
I quieted them because the discussion was repeating and going nowhere and
they would not let it lie.
Clive aka DiscordianUK
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:48 AM, irc-support-sig <trac at fedorahosted.org>wrote:
> #156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
> -----------------------+--------------------------------------------------
> Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
> Type: feedback | Status: new
> Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
> Version: | Severity: Negative
> Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
> Blocked By: | Blocking:
> -----------------------+--------------------------------------------------
>
> Comment (by nixfas):
>
> '''IRC QUOTE, the most relevant of the ALL LOG:'''
> ----
> ago 09 01:11:24 <nix\> Is legal or allowed submit to Koji M$ office[[BR]]
>
> 151 2007 in rpm format?[[BR]]
>
> 152 ago 09 01:11:29 <nix\> is possible, using wine[[BR]]
>
> 153 ago 09 01:11:53 <fenris02> nix\, depends which countries laws
> you obey
> 154 now doesnt it.[[BR]]
>
> 155 ago 09 01:12:05 <fenris02> nix\, THINK for a minute. REAL
> HARD.[[BR]]
>
> 156 ago 09 01:12:46 <HadalPoint> nix\: You should package Internet
> 157 Explorer 6 in rpm format and submit to Koji. I'll support the
> effort![[BR]]
>
> 158 ago 09 01:13:13 <nix\> fenris02: Argentina[[BR]]
>
> 159 ago 09 01:13:15 <nix\> Legal is legal[[BR]]
>
> 160 ago 09 01:13:18 <nix\> law is ley[[BR]]
>
> 161 ago 09 01:13:19 <fenris02> nix\, WRONG[[BR]]
>
> 162 ago 09 01:13:40 '''<fenris02> nix\, in argentina, WAR
> criminals were given'''
> 163 '''leeway for 60 years for crimes against humanity'''[[BR]]
>
> 164 '''ago 09 01:13:52 <nix\> fenris02: is other thing'''[[BR]]
>
> 165 ago 09 01:13:52 <fenris02> MANY, countless thousands
> died.[[BR]]
>
> 166 ago 09 01:14:11 <fenris02> nix\, "legal" in .ar is not the
> same as .us
> 167 or .ru or any other country[[BR]]
>
> 168 ago 09 01:14:20 <nix\> fenris02: actually war criminals are in
> prission[[BR]]
>
> 169 ago 09 01:14:33 <fenris02> nix\, no, they roamed free 60+
> years.[[BR]]
>
> 170 ago 09 01:14:36 <HadalPoint> fenris02: Unless it's over the
> internet
> 171 of course. Then all laws apply. cough[[BR]]
>
> 172 ago 09 01:14:44 <fenris02> nix\, c'mon, you know your
> history.[[BR]]
>
> 173 '''ago 09 01:14:47 <EvilBob> lol'''[[BR]]
>
> 174 ago 09 01:14:52 <nix\> fenris02: speaking of gramatic, is the
> same in
> 175 .uy .ar .es .co etc[[BR]]
>
> 176 '''ago 09 01:14:53 <fenris02> nix\, think back to the mid-80s
> in your own'''
> 177 '''country'''[[BR]]
>
> 178 ago 09 01:15:14 <nix\> fenris02: yes, I know the history... is
> legal
> 179 that CIA do?[[BR]]
>
> 180 ago 09 01:15:15 <fenris02> why do i know what happened in the
> 70s and
> 181 80s in your country and you do not nix\ ?[[BR]]
>
> 182 ago 09 01:15:29 <HadalPoint> nix\: It's okay, I agree with
> you... so
> 183 does Judge Dredd. THE LAW IS THE LAW.[[BR]]
>
> 184 ago 09 01:15:42 <nix\> fenris02: I have no shame about it, is
> that my
> 185 country sucks about many things[[BR]]
>
> 186 ago 09 01:15:48 <fenris02> nix\, legal? does not apply if
> you are
> 187 outside the country .. you obey the remote countries laws[[BR]]
>
> 188 ago 09 01:16:07 <fenris02> nix\, you obey the laws of the
> country you
> 189 reside in. not the one you were born.[[BR]]
>
> 190 ago 09 01:16:09 <nix\> HadalPoint: Exctly[[BR]]
>
> 191 ago 09 01:16:11 <nix\> a*[[BR]]
>
> 192 ago 09 01:16:12 <fenris02> nix\, they CHANGE[[BR]]
>
> 193 ago 09 01:16:18 <HadalPoint> lol..[[BR]]
>
> 194 ago 09 01:16:39 <fenris02> nix\, stop being a fool.[[BR]]
>
> 195 '''ago 09 01:16:48 <nix\> fenris02: criminal 70-80 read in
> wikipedia'''
> 196 '''"operacion condor"'''[[BR]]
>
> 197 ago 09 01:16:59 <fenris02> nix\, yep. i'm quite
> familiar[[BR]]
>
> 198 ago 09 01:17:10 <nix\>
> 199 http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operaci%C3%B3n_C%C3%B3ndor[[BR]]
>
> 200 ago 09 01:17:18 <nix\> well[[BR]]
>
> 201 '''ago 09 01:17:22 <EvilBob> es?'''[[BR]]
>
> 202 ago 09 01:17:31 <nix\> all war in argentina, uruguay, etc of
> latam[[BR]]
>
> 203 '''ago 09 01:17:32 <EvilBob> I don't read Mexican't'''[[BR]]
>
> 204 '''ago 09 01:17:36 <fenris02> changing topics to avoid
> admitting fault?'''
> 205 '''nice troll effort there nix\'''[[BR]] -> I'm the troll? I
> starting the conversation about crimes, war and history of my country?
>
> 206 ago 09 01:17:37 <nix\> was orquested by eeuu[[BR]]
>
> 207 ago 09 01:17:55 <nix\> by the CIA[[BR]]
>
> 208 ago 09 01:18:24 <fenris02> how's that iphone working for you
> nix\ ?
> 209 any of your friends have one?[[BR]]
>
> 210 ago 09 01:18:24 <HadalPoint> What does the CIA have to do with
> 211 Microsoft-Office.rpm ?[[BR]]
>
> 212 ago 09 01:18:26 <nix\> Chile, Argentina, Brasil, Paraguay,
> Uruguay,
> 213 Bolivia , Perú, Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador[[BR]]
>
> 214 ago 09 01:18:30 <fenris02> HadalPoint, about nothing[[BR]]
>
> 215 '''ago 09 01:18:36 <nix\> EvilBob: Spanish'''[[BR]]
>
> 216 '''ago 09 01:18:39 <nix\> No .mx'''[[BR]]
>
> 217 ago 09 01:19:00 <fenris02> iphone is perfectly legal to have
> if you are
> 218 in .us ..[[BR]]
>
> 219 '''ago 09 01:19:00 <EvilBob> You say spinach I say
> Mexican't'''[[BR]]
>
> 220 '''ago 09 01:19:04 * fenris02 waits for it ..'''[[BR]]
>
> 221 ago 09 01:19:06 <HadalPoint> EvilBob: lol[[BR]]
>
> 222 ago 09 01:19:11 <nix\> fenris02: No, i no change the topic for
> admit
> 223 nothing.[[BR]]
>
> 224 '''ago 09 01:19:16 <fenris02> nix\, hahahahahhaa'''[[BR]]
>
> 225 '''ago 09 01:19:17 <nix\> Only respond, shit with shit.'''[[BR]]
>
> 226 '''ago 09 01:19:20 <fenris02> nix\, move along.'''[[BR]]
>
> 227 '''ago 09 01:19:58 <nix\> EvilBob: Spanish'''[[BR]]
>
> 228 '''ago 09 01:20:10 <EvilBob> Yeah, Mexican't'''[[BR]]
>
> 229 '''ago 09 01:20:17 <nix\> Mexican is spanish too, but with some
> argot'''[[BR]]
>
> 230 ago 09 01:20:20 <EvilBob> ;)[[BR]]
>
> 231 ago 09 01:20:53 <nix\> fenris02: If you way "criminal war", etc,
> i say
> 232 "yes, orquested by the CIA of eeuu".[[BR]]
>
> 233 '''ago 09 01:20:59 <EvilBob> nix\: As long as you don't
> claim to be'''
> 234 '''American, we will be OK'''[[BR]]
>
> 235 ago 09 01:21:22 <nix\> EvilBob: Are you much nacionalist?[[BR]]
>
> 236 '''ago 09 01:21:23 <HadalPoint> EvilBob: South
> American?'''[[BR]]
>
> 237 ago 09 01:21:32 <nix\> similar to george bush?[[BR]]
>
> 238 ago 09 01:21:51 <nix\> hate arabic, nigger, latam, etc?[[BR]]
>
> 239 ago 09 01:21:55 * FranciscoD
> 240 (~Ankur^^@pdpc/supporter/active/franciscod) ha entrado en #fedora-
> social[[BR]]
>
> 241 ago 09 01:21:58 <HadalPoint> ehh[[BR]]
>
> 242 ago 09 01:22:04 <nix\> hating*[[BR]]
>
> 243 '''ago 09 01:22:19 <nix\> America is a continent'''[[BR]]
>
> 244 '''ago 09 01:22:29 * fedbot establece modo +q #fedora-social
> nix\!*@*'''
> 245 '''ago 09 01:22:30 <fedbot> nix\, You have been quieted in
> this channel'''
> 246 '''for 15 minutes. Please read the FAQ in the channel topic and
> consider'''
> 247 '''changing your approach and/or the behavior that is disrupting
> the'''
> 248 '''channel. Take a break and consider things.'''[[BR]]
>
> 249 ago 09 01:22:33 <nix\> North America other and South America
> other[[BR]]
>
> 250 '''ago 09 01:22:33 * #fedora-social :Cannot send to
> channel'''[[BR]]
> [[BR]]
>
>
>
> nirik, or the person responsible for solve this IRC ticket, read this
> resume of the LOG and note the bold marked words. The log was not
> modified, only is a cut of the full log and marked with bold the most
> relevant words that involves the abuse and racism problem descript
> here.[[BR]]
> Thank you
>
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Clive
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