[irc-support-sig] #156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social

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#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
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  Reporter:  nixfas    |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 19
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:  war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by bjensen):

 Replying to [comment:11 seeitcoming]:
 > Trashing the integrity of Russia and Argentina vs. the US is incorrect
 in addition to being unwelcoming-bordering-on-offensive: the Global
 Integrity Report [http://www.globalintegrity.org ranks Argentina] higher
 than the US for its legal frameworks, and overall.
 >
 > It seems very much like the channel ops were more interested in cracking
 race jokes ("Mexican't" is not a word I want to see in a Fedora channel,
 particularly not when deployed by native English speakers against a
 Spanish speaker) than answering the original interesting question, or
 allowing anyone else to.
 >
 > I think it reflects incredibly badly on the community for channel ops to
 be hassling someone based on their nationality. The IRC channels are
 supposed to be welcoming and polite.

 OK lets address this, The Russian part first. The original question was
 why some "Russian Fedora" includes something that the REAL Fedora does
 not, the answer of "Different countries have different laws" for some
 reason was not understood. I still don't know why.

 The Argentina part... I really have no idea where fenris was going with
 this or why. Argentina has a spotty history when it comes to some things
 but again, I don't know why it matters.

 The question was posted in a NON-SUPPORT channel, the "ops" and other
 users of the channel should not be interested in giving support there, it
 is a social, light hearted channel.

 As for nixfas being a Spanish speaker, I had no idea, I don't care, I've
 never had a problem with them they do a fine job of helping users in the
 #fedora support channel most of the time and is an overall fun person to
 socialize with in the -social channel. I've never known "Mexican't" to be
 used in what I would call a derogatory manner. "Back home" the influence
 of Polish and Scandinavian language makes all my family and friends with
 the regional accent to pronounce "Mexican" as "Mexican't" and even my
 friend Manuel who is a 1st generation "American" who's Father came to the
 US legally use it ALL the time. Hell he calls me an "American't."

 I think it reflects poorly on the community for everyone to be sprung to
 God damned tight that they can't even see when people who are otherwise
 their friends are joking. I explained my side of things to nixfas and
 apologized for my part in any unintended offence they may have taken,
 which they accepted.

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