When to rebrand fedora?

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:36 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 09:48 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>>>> Since we're on the topic, I've also suggested on the "new trademark 
>>>> policy" wiki page[1], that rebranding should not be required in case you 
>>>> hand out a presentation or demo in case of an ISV, if you have built it 
>>>> upon Fedora and are simply handing it out to attendees of your session 
>>>> (which kinda equals to limited distribution, e.g. non-public). Same 
>>>> might apply to downstream vendors distributing appliances (like VMWare 
>>>> used to distribute .vmx files for some operating systems/distributions?)
>>>>
>>> This part I'm not so sure of.  "Limited distribution" in an age of
>>> convenient bit-moving doesn't mean a whole lot.  Rather, we should be
>>> working on automation for rebranding that makes the whole operation easy
>>> for anyone that wants to do it -- so the requirement is less onerous.
>>>
>> Euh, right, "Limited distribution" is most definitely not the right 
>> terminology, but I wouldn't want to force people (or ISVs for that 
>> matter) that hand out Fedora media containing a demo or presentation, to 
>> rebrand to the fullest because they add non-fedora content. Replacing 
>> fedora-logos is reasonable, anything beyond makes them go to other 
>> distributions to use or derive from.
> 
> I think this *may* be fairly easy to solve in the Live image on USB
> case.  The part of the file system outside the Live image is completely
> outside of what we call Fedora.  Including presentation or demo material
> there doesn't affect the "Fedora-ness" of the Live image.  I would think
> that any claim it did would be a little strange, because that would
> affect anyone who uses a Live USB and decides to store some data in that
> external space.  This is just a preliminary thought.
> 

Presentations, yes. Video demo's, yes. Placing a file on the desktop 
though is just as trivially impacting Fedora (eg. none at all) as 
placing it on the medium. Just a thought.

Now I want to demo a failover cluster with FooApp failing over nice and 
clean. Or, I want to pull someone from the audience and boot his/her 
laptop to join a cluster (again FooApp). These demo's will be given all 
over Europe maybe, at events, private training sessions (where students 
take the CD/USB key home for further practice?), and partners and 
distributors.

Just to clarify, this is what I had meant by using the word "demo" ;-)

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen
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