[fedora-java] Headaches for sysadmins which Java apps/services

[Andrew Overholt]

On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 13:55 -0700, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote:
> On 7/23/07, Andrew Overholt wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 11:24 -0700, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote:
> > > --on dev machines, updating eclipse (though we just started using the
> > > Jpackage'd RHEL4 SDK channel which seems pretty stable)
> >
> > I'm interested in more details here if you can provide them.
> 
> Sure, not sure if you mean on the problem side or the RHEL SDK side.
> If you've used Eclipse, the problem should be pretty clear. There is an
> update manager, but it's slow and half the time it crashes if you've got
> a bunch of plugins (and we do). It's usually faster to download an
> entire new Eclipse bundle than use the updater.

Okay, that's an upstream problem that's being addressed in 3.4.

> The RHEL4 SDK has most of what we normally use, which is
> Eclipse + WTP / Tomcat 5.5 (for J2EE) + Subclipse. It installs with
> up2date or yum and works. It's the same trade-off as usual for RHEL,
> it's not the latest features but it's stable. Users can install Europa in
> their home directory if desired.

What's the "RHEL4 SDK" you speak of?  RHDS?  I didn't think JPackage
provided any Eclipse packages other than ecj anymore.

Andrew
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