Could/should the new nvidia driver be added to the release candidate live release ?

[Linuxguy123]

On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 09:55 +0100, Eelko Berkenpies wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:54:04 +0000, Anne Wilson
> <cannewilson at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Friday 16 January 2009 00:22:25 Linuxguy123 wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 00:38 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >> > On Thursday 15 January 2009, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> >> > > There was a lot of user frustration that prior versions of KDE
> didn't
> >> > > work properly because of issues attributed to nvidia.  I think its
> >> > > our
> >> > > responsibility to test/work this out in the release candidate and
> >> > > make
> >> > > sure that things do work properly now.
> >> >
> >> > It is not. Proprietary drivers are not supported.
> >> >
> >> > I don't see why we should put stuff on the live CD which are not part
> >> > of
> >> > Fedora. We want you to test Fedora, not some proprietary crap.
> >>
> >> BECAUSE YOUR USERS NEED IT TO FULLY USE KDE !
> >>
> > No they don't.  Please stop assuming that your preference is a general
> > need.
> > 
> > Anne
> 
> And I would like to add to the whole issue (just add, it's not my intention
> to throw oil on the fire :)) that a company like nVidia or ATI should pay a
> little bit more attention to their legacy drivers (and Linux userbase in
> general). I have a fairly new PC at home (not older then 3, 3.5 years)
> having a nVidia FX 5500 card (and a FX 5200 at work) and with both
> computers I'm having graphics issues within KDE.
> 
> The new 180.x drivers are only based on the 6000+ range of the nVidia cards
> and they seem to contain the needed fixes for KDE to run (really) smoothly.

I think KDE has painted itself into a corner on this issue.  I bet half
the computers out there aren't going to run KDE properly. 

> And the same for ATI (I have a 9200SE as an alternative at work), they
> haven't been updating their legacy drivers since 2006. Hence the fact that
> they don't even supports resolutions over 1280x1024.
> 
> By Google-ing, you'll easily find out that there are quite a few people out
> there having these problems and they haven't been solved since they were
> initially reported. The only one making a little bit of progress was nVidia
> back in the first quarter of 2008 by releasing an updated 173.14.x driver
> solving a few of the problems for me.
> 
> Therefor I have to agree with Kevin on this one. Doing a specific
> (Fedora)KDE release for a wouldn't work (for me at least), there still
> would be certain problems until the manufacturer decides to fix their
> drivers. In general KDE is running smoothly, keeping the driver
> restrictions and issues in mind, and I don't see the need of having card
> specific distro's.

Just to clarify, it wouldn't be a card specific release.  It would be a
release that has drivers for nVidia cards in addition to whatever it had
before.