requirements for default apps
John Pilkington
J.Pilk at tesco.net
Mon Jan 18 23:21:33 UTC 2010
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Rex Dieter wrote:
>
>> So, please comment on what you consider to be core requirements when it
>> comes to:
>> 1. packagekit frontend/integration
>> 2. networkmanager frontend
>> 3. bluetooth device support
>> 4. phonon backend
>> 5. anything else you can think of...
>
> I don't know, as a day-to-day home computer user, what I can suggest that might be
> useful, but, off the top of my head:
>
> 1. packagekit: I did not particularly like the one version a while back that relied
> on smart. It never worked. Then there was another version, which appeared to be the
> same program (very confusing) that integrated into the system-settings. Neither did
> anything. What I find missing in all of these package managers is the ability to
> explore the repositories. Package management is not simply about updating installed
> software, but also about perusing the repo and discovering other programs one might
> like to install. Way back in kde2 or kde3, there used to be such a program (I don't
> recall if it was an apt frontend, or what it was) that allowed one to click on
> every available program and be shown a description of the program, all of the files
> it provided and all of the dependencies required. This type of package management
> is sorely lacking. One should be able to find packages, not just in groups, like
> games, development, etc., but also individually. Yes, the list would be many
> thousands long, but when you don't know what it is called, you don't know what it
> does and you don't even know that it exists until you spot it, how can you search
> for it?
Smart does all that. Its predecessor was Synaptic. I've used them
since ~FC3.
RPMfusion at least offers repoview, but fedoraproject no longer does (or if
> it does, it is impossible to view, because you are always automatically directed to
> some mirror site that doesn't implement it).
>
> 2. networkmanager: the gnome icon in the system tray works splendidly here. Does
> absolutely everything have to be duplicated? But, if it does, then I would think it
> should be, at a minimum, as functional as the current system. I like it in the
> system tray, as having a plasmoid for this uses up too much space on the panel.
>
> 3. bluetooth: I have never had any bluetooth devices, so it would be hard to
> comment, but they should be automatically detected both when they are present and
> when they get out of range/are removed. I definitely dislike any kind of system
> that allows only root to mount/unmount or attach and remove devices. If I plug a
> device in, then I should be able to use it. It's my computer!
>
> 4. phonon: I prefer xine, but ultimately what is important is that it be able to
> play any file I encounter.
>
> 5. ? This is always the hardest question. I am sure I have a gripe somewhere, but
> it evades me. I think we could take that as meaning that things are really very
> good ;-) Reading some other comments might jog my memory. No set-up and just works
> are important to me in every aspect of computer use (although I do highly value the
> intricate set-up capabilities of kde, when I feel like customizing to get it just
> so).
>
> I hope this helps.
>
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