kdepim4.5

[Patrick Boutilier]

On 07/04/2010 01:53 AM, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:43:40 Eike Hein wrote:
>> On 07/03/2010 06:56 PM, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
>>> Fine. K. then. I guess I am getting confused. But that means that I will
>>> not always know what package goes with what package which means that I
>>> will not be able to rely on the relative stability of whats coming out
>>> of kde-redhat. Bummer really since I've been with the repo for a very
>>> very long time. Bummer, because I won't have the resources to be able to
>>> help, what little I can, because I'm never going to be sure of how tight
>>> the integration between all the packages are going to be in the repo
>>> that they're sitting in. Bummer since kde-redhat has become an extension
>>> of the kde release cycle rather than the kde packaged for fedora release
>>> cycle. I guess that once 4.5 goes gold I will have to rely only on
>>> Fedora's stable packaging. I guess that's OK, because I know that the
>>> final product when its finally going to be released is going to be
>>> great. Really a bummer for me though, because I have enjoyed very much
>>> watching how each full release has progressed over time.
>>
>> You're not making any sense there, to be honest.
>>
>> The situation with kdepim is that it won't be ready to be released
>> with KDE 4.5.0, but only a bit later; it is going to be released
>> with 4.5.1 or 4.5.2. Hence kdepim is currently at beta1, while
>> the rest of the KDE SC is already at rc1.
>>
>> However, kde-unstable has already shipped both KDE SC 4.5 beta1
>> and beta2 (as well as betas of previous KDE SC releases, including
>> the respective kdepim betas!), so kde-unstable is obviously OK to
>> cary beta-level KDE releases for a long time.
>>
>> There's a beta of a kdepim release. It's going into kde-unstable.
>> Just like the beta of kdepim 4.4. And 4.3. And 4.2. ...
>>
>> There's nothing unusual about this, except that the production
>> release of kdepim 4.5 is delayed a bit beyond the release of the
>> rest of the SC.
>>
>>> Eli
>
> The fuss is.... The developers are saying that kdepim 4.5 is not ready for
> prime time and will not be released with kde 4.5. In unstable we have the kde
> 4.5 packages. We are all testing kde 4.5 not 4.5.1. It is not unforseable that
> me you or someone else, on purpose or by accident or for whatever reason
> installs kdepim 4.5 on a production desktop. Could be they are not part of the
> mailing list. Or missed the statements that kdepim is not going to be released
> with 4.5. Now.... lets assume that there are even minor changes to the way
> kdepim talks to akonadi. The database changes. Queries change. Imap databases
> get corrupted. Addressbook data gets modified. Now.... rollback. Exactly how
> does one propse that gets done.
>
> Yes there is the risk that can happen with schedualed for release versions.
> Its happened already. Hasn't it?

People use kde-unstable on a production desktop? :-)



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